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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:06 am    Post subject: '67 rear view mirror - plastic or aluminum? Reply with quote

There are two ads in the classifieds for '67 riew view mirrors. One has an aluminum body and the other has a plastic body.

Which is correct or was there a change as the year progressed?

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Aluminum body

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Plastic body
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My early 67 has an aluminum body, offset like the one in the top picture. However it has the more "sculpted" looking (can't think of a better term) base/neck that is depicted in the second picture.

I have never seen a 67 with a plastic mirror but that doesn't mean they didn't use them later, as 67 is definitely a transition year.

Here is a picture of mine, after my daughter and I finished repairing the pivot and installing new glass in it. I don't believe I had polished it at this point.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 67 has a plastic one.

The screwheads are in good condition. No way to know if it is original though..

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an early '67, it is metal and it is OG.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what I heard was that at some time in the late '60s/early 70's, the US DOT required that mirror backs be made of a non-reflective material. so NOS replacement mirrors after that point were made with black plastic backs.

all original split bus rearview mirrors had aluminum backs.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My '67 (Dec. '66) has a plastic back, which I believe to be original to the vehicle.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a fairly late 67 and mine is all metal
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It also may be a deluxe vs non deluxe thing too Question
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lind wrote:
what I heard was that at some time in the late '60s/early 70's, the US DOT required that mirror backs be made of a non-reflective material. so NOS replacement mirrors after that point were made with black plastic backs.

all original split bus rearview mirrors had aluminum backs.


I'll agree with lind on this one. I just sold one with a plastic back, sold it as a 67. Here is the VW part# & FAM stamp that was on it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P-Dub wrote:
My '67 (Dec. '66) has a plastic back, which I believe to be original to the vehicle.
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That's odd. I can't confirm that mine was original to the bus, but I have a pretty good feeling that it was; and it had a metal back on it. My bus was produced the same day as yours... Think Eh?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess the mirror was replaced at some point then. You learn something new everyday.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My tipper is a late June 67 bus and has a metal mirror.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm wondering if it was a dealer thing, some got metal & others got plastic.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really interesting! My girlfriend's '67 Squareback came with a plastic backed rear view mirror. It is original and of course one year only.

My June 7th, 67's mirror is plastic. It looks very original and fairly well preserved since the bus is a Portland, Oregon bus. I haven't pulled it off to check it to see if it has a VW number and stamp.

Lind, thanks for that info on the regulation for a non-reflective material.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought I read somewhere that commercials didn't get shipped with interior mirrors? Or was it just the exterior mirrors? If so, would dealers have been using up their stocks?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My early '67 and wife's late '67s have original metal mirrors.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Major Woody wrote:
I thought I read somewhere that commercials didn't get shipped with interior mirrors? Or was it just the exterior mirrors? If so, would dealers have been using up their stocks?

prior to 1964, only deluxes had rearview mirrors from the factory. most buses had rearview mirrors installed at some point though.

sideview mirrors and hubcaps were shipped inside the vehicles and installed at the dealership as to avoid damage or loss during shipping.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the classified ad that prompted this question.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=188574

I will try and pull mine today and see if there is a VW part number.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another question that comes to mind is:

When did the mirrors become offset? The earlier mirrors had the pivot point in the middle but at some point it was moved toward the passenger's side.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My early 67 (nov) has the offset, and is all metal.
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