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peaceful warrior
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Kevin, what about running it thru a Bay Charcoal canister somewhere above the right rear fender well.....there seems to be enough room to mount one? |
Yeah, that sounds like an idea. I like the Bay filler neck that pipes it back in, but that kinda defeats the idea of venting the tank, doesn't it? |
I think I have a few, so I am going to check it out, but I would not bring it back to the tank, just in between the tank and then vent into the filler neck area.
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KevinAlbrecht
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| peaceful warrior wrote: |
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| peaceful warrior wrote: |
Kevin, what about running it thru a Bay Charcoal canister somewhere above the right rear fender well.....there seems to be enough room to mount one? |
Yeah, that sounds like an idea. I like the Bay filler neck that pipes it back in, but that kinda defeats the idea of venting the tank, doesn't it? |
I think I have a few, so I am going to check it out, but I would not bring it back to the tank, just in between the tank and then vent into the filler neck area. |
Let us know how it goes! I just have a fuel filter clamped to the end by the filler neck.
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peaceful warrior
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| peaceful warrior wrote: |
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| peaceful warrior wrote: |
Kevin, what about running it thru a Bay Charcoal canister somewhere above the right rear fender well.....there seems to be enough room to mount one? |
Yeah, that sounds like an idea. I like the Bay filler neck that pipes it back in, but that kinda defeats the idea of venting the tank, doesn't it? |
I think I have a few, so I am going to check it out, but I would not bring it back to the tank, just in between the tank and then vent into the filler neck area. |
Let us know how it goes! I just have a fuel filter clamped to the end by the filler neck. |
I sure will!
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| I'm not happy with the bay tank in my old bus. Invariably I overfill it and get spilled gas stink when cornering hard. In my new old bus I'm sticking with the stock tank. |
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quartermilecamel
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I dont have that problem as I went with a non vented cap, and just vented the tank with charcoal. Also on the cornering hard and stinking, I decided to track down the stink. Turns out my 40 year old rubber connecting the filler neck with cracks just wasnt cutting it. When I decided to go with a non vented cap and seal the liquid gold in the tank, instead of 87 octane heater vent air freshener, I just reused the old rubber. Thats when the rubber cracked enough to majorly leak when I filled up. Thats when I was determined to find fuel hose, and found napa had it, since they are known to carry some stuff for farm equipment.
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Your vw(very welcome)
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| ...I no longer sell Splitbus fuel gauges rebuilt and converted to 12 Volts... |
Although I don't agree, I thought the majority of gauge gender changers said to just run the 6 volt gauge on 12 volts.
What is the true answer and what physically is the difference in your professional opinion? Dstefun once said there was an in-line 90+ ohm resistor on the factory 12 volt gauges if I remember right. |
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peaceful warrior
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I found I have a later Ghia speedo with fuel gauge that I am going to try to fit in the bus since I have no fuel gauge at the moment and I am not concerned about going stock at this point. Hope is it will fit and also work with the Bay sender. Still have not installed the tank yet, as I am still trying to clean a lot of grease and dirt out of the engine bay.
I'll let you know if it works out.
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peaceful warrior
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Got it done using the Bay vent tube. I did not install the charcoal filter as I want to experiment without it. Should not be too difficult to add though.
Here are some photos of the finish product. 
I took a couple of photos of the vent tube into the filler area, but they came out poorly. I will try again later.
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I did this conversion this past weekend. I welded the vent tube to the filler neck for maximum filling.
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amotomura
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I am in the process of putting a bay tank in my 63. My bay tank was a bit rusty inside, so I researched gas tank liners and could not find a DIY one that I trusted. I did find a local shop that does the "RENU" process. They charged $200 and had the tank done in 3 days. ( they offered to do it for less if I didn't want the outside done). I couldn't find anyone with bad experiences with this coating. The only thing that bothers me a tiny bit is that they drill a hole in a top corner. I've attached pictures of the finished tank if anyone is interested... I was pretty happy with the results!
By the way, how are people dealing with the filler tube? I can cut the filler off of my old tank, but would rather not cut a perfectly good split tank. The bay tank has a filler tube, but does not have a way to attach a filler cap?!?
Hole drilled and plugged:
Inside of tank (notice plug in top right of picture):
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| That's a late tank, will that even work? I see it has 2 fuel outlets on the bottom? Wtf? Fuel injected shit? Those don't unscrew like an earlier tank? Doubt that thing will slide with those things hanging down. What will you do with the extra one? |
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amotomura
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Tank fits very well even with extra fitting. It actually sits nice and flat, I don't have the rocking issue that some other tanks seem to have. Not completely sure what to do with extra fitting. Might cap it off, or T the two together... Maybe one can run to a future gas heater.
I'll post a pic later of it fitted in place. |
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peaceful warrior
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| Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:54 am Post subject: |
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By the way, how are people dealing with the filler tube? I can cut the filler off of my old tank, but would rather not cut a perfectly good split tank. The bay tank has a filler tube, but does not have a way to attach a filler cap?!?
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If you look at my photos above, I used a Bay Filler pipe with cap. It took a bit of time and a couple of tries, but I cut the Bay neck right where it begins to bend and then took all of it with dimensions to a muffler shop. They bent new pipe and then welded it to the original.
With the cap section, I made up a ring of thickest galvanized metal I could find.
I drilled it out with a metal hole saw to slip over the neck. I aligned it pre-installation and pre-drilled the holes for sheet metal screws. When I did the installation, I slipped the new soft line further up the fill pipe then needed, set it all in place and had a helper hold it, then I screwed three sheet metal screws thru the flange of the Bay filler neck into the galvanized ring, which pulled it tight and sandwiched it between the original split spill tray.
Then slipped the soft hose down onto the tank and clamped both sides. I have filled it up now, with no leaks.
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Tank fits very well even with extra fitting. It actually sits nice and flat, I don't have the rocking issue that some other tanks seem to have. Not completely sure what to do with extra fitting. Might cap it off, or T the two together... Maybe one can run to a future gas heater.
I'll post a pic later of it fitted in place. |
Crazy. I had to take the fitting off the bottom of the tank to get it in, and even then it was still a struggle. |
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tstracy39
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Late Bay tanks are a bad idea anyway because they severely limit the types of sending units that can be fitted. 1968 to 72 tanks can take any sending unit with a standardized bolt pattern, including any aftermarket sending units currently being produced by VDO or Autometer. Post 72 tanks can only be fitted with the stock post-72 Baywindow sending unit, which causes a stock Splitbus fuel gauge to perform all crappy and be inaccurate. I have a couple custom fit sending units left, VDO jacked up the wholesale price so if I ever get any more, they will be more expensive.
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