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Mike Molzen
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| I bought a 60 gallon 220 volt upright air compressor from Harbor Frieght about 3 years ago to paint my Nissan Sentra. It ran all of my air tools including my HVLP, DA sander, and other high air consumption tools without a problem. It so happens that it is exactly like the Kobalt model sold at my local Lowes store for significantly cheaper price. I know that a lot of people think Harbor Freight tools are cheaper because many are made in China, but after all, almost all name brand tools are now made in China anyway. Also, I have not had any problems with this unit since I have owned it. I unfortunatly had a lady run a red light and total the car this January. The insurance adjuster commented on how nice the paint job was for the car's age (1999) he didn't realize it had been repainted. I hope this helps, Mike |
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Robertjm
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[url] http://www.harborfreight.com/merchandising-promoti...html[/url]
They have this on sale at Harbour Frieght this weekend. It has 125 PSI, but it doesn't list CFM.
Any thoughts (besides "if it's HF it's junk)?
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hpw
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Air delivery: 4.5 SCFM @ 90 PSI, 5.5 SCFM @ 40 PSI |
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Robertjm
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Thanks how. Couldn't be more obvious. 
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hpw
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| Robertjm wrote: | | Thanks how. Couldn't be more obvious. |
Don't feel bad, I have done the exact thing and probably just about everyone on this site. |
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BusterBrown
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Hi Folks,
I'm about to set up a 60 gallon, 5 HP compressor at my shop, and have a question that I don't see as having been addressed here before. What would you all recommend for an inline filter/dryer for general use? My intentions are to use air for grinding, cutting, polishing, air ratchet/tools, and yes, spray painting. In other words; a multitude of uses. I don't want to spend a fortune, and I see that Eastwood carries a few models in the $200-$400 range. Anybody know of a good source for a deal on a decent quality filter?
Thanks in advance! 
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odecom5
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Looks like this thread is rarely responded to anymore, but I'll ask here for fear of making somebody angry by starting a new thread 
Are there any compressors out there that are 110v that can handle an HVLP gun and some sanding?
I need to buy a compressor to do work on my bus, but a) I can't afford a professional body shop one that everybody demands you have if you are going to do any sort of body work, and b) it really isn't worth the money for occasional hobby usage to buy one of those... finally, c) my garage is not equipped with 220v, so that makes it even harder. The best I have found in my hours long searching seems to be this one: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00916474000P
It offers 7.2 SCFM @ 40psi, and 5.8 SCFM @ 90psi. I know this is below any of the 220v ones, however, the HVLP spray guns say they only require 5.1-5.5 on the ones that I have seen.
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Robertjm
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I cannot speak to the quality, but the CFM certainly should cover it. Check out Craigslist, if you don't mind buying used. I ended up getting a Devilbis used for $150, which gives out 8.2 40 psi!
| odecom5 wrote: | Looks like this thread is rarely responded to anymore, but I'll ask here for fear of making somebody angry by starting a new thread
Are there any compressors out there that are 110v that can handle an HVLP gun and some sanding?
I need to buy a compressor to do work on my bus, but a) I can't afford a professional body shop one that everybody demands you have if you are going to do any sort of body work, and b) it really isn't worth the money for occasional hobby usage to buy one of those... finally, c) my garage is not equipped with 220v, so that makes it even harder. The best I have found in my hours long searching seems to be this one: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00916474000P
It offers 7.2 SCFM @ 40psi, and 5.8 SCFM @ 90psi. I know this is below any of the 220v ones, however, the HVLP spray guns say they only require 5.1-5.5 on the ones that I have seen.
Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks! |
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BusterBrown
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| odecom5 wrote: | | Are there any compressors out there that are 110v that can handle an HVLP gun and some sanding? |
The HVLP spray gun isn't as much a problem with smaller compressors, but if using an air sander you'll find you really need a lot of air. With my Mirka 5" air sander working away, I find my 240 volt 20 gallon compressor just runs continuously. I think a unit powered on 110 would have trouble keeping up. Maybe someone with a differing experience will chime in.
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Mike Fisher
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You should be ok for painting, but should just buy electric sanders.
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| Mike Fisher wrote: | | You should be ok for painting, but should just buy electric sanders. |
Oh that was my other question... is there any real difference with electric random orbit sanders other than weight?
Thank you both for the insight! |
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if you have an electric dryer you can plug a single phase 220v compressor into the dryer outlet.
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Volksair.
I might have $500. But i'm a scrounger. I got my 60 gallon tank for free. I have a video of it running somewhere. Now that i'm moving my shop to a commercial area I can run it anytime of the night. Much to the displeasure of my soon to be neighbors i'm sure.
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| odecom5 wrote: | Looks like this thread is rarely responded to anymore, but I'll ask here for fear of making somebody angry by starting a new thread
Are there any compressors out there that are 110v that can handle an HVLP gun and some sanding?
I need to buy a compressor to do work on my bus, but a) I can't afford a professional body shop one that everybody demands you have if you are going to do any sort of body work, and b) it really isn't worth the money for occasional hobby usage to buy one of those... finally, c) my garage is not equipped with 220v, so that makes it even harder. The best I have found in my hours long searching seems to be this one: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00916474000P
It offers 7.2 SCFM @ 40psi, and 5.8 SCFM @ 90psi. I know this is below any of the 220v ones, however, the HVLP spray guns say they only require 5.1-5.5 on the ones that I have seen.
Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks! |
From my experience, you need at least 20 cfm to handle steady use of most auto body sanders and paint guns. Especially when painting an all over job. However, a way around this with a smaller compressor is to work small areas at a time. HVLP guns still require lots of air volume to maintain a consistent pressure on a large job. Nothing will ruin a paint job faster than constantly having to adjust your air pressure at the gun halfway through a coat of clear. Most runs come from low air pressure and poor atomization of the paint droplets. In other words, not enough pressure and you are globbing larger droplets on vs fine particles of paint.
I have sprayed in all conditions, and if air is an issue break the job into smaller sections so you can maintain pressure for an entire coat, then let compressors charge back up between coats. And electric orbital sanders can work better than pneumatic if air volume is a problem.
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You can plug a 220v single phase compressor into an electric dryer outlet.
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