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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Any help on a non op bus from Lancaster, California to Reno Nevada?
I know it makes it a lot harder since it doesnt run.


Know this post is older- but I may be able to grab it on my next run:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great thread. I flicked through it but couldn't find info for shipping a car from NYC to the UK. Any recommendation? Companies to avoid?
How do people feel about Roro these days? It's really cheaper as it seems, but there's no such thing as a free lunch, as the brits say.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howdy. I'm looking for someone that could bring a running poptop bus from Oakland, Ca. to Western NC. I've been getting quotes from some of the folks in this thread as well as other sites, but figured I'd post up in case someone had an open spot. Thanks,
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a second transaction with unitedroad. again, I got a quote online, called them with my quote number and payment. They had my bus picked up within a couple days, and was delivered from San Jose CA to Houston TX just 3 days later. My first transport using them was flawless, and so was this one. I couldn't recommend anyone else at this point, I will use them from now on. The price was lower than a lot of other folks, and excellent communication throughout the process
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am looking to get a 62 bus shipped from Flagstaff, AZ to the Kansas City area if possible. I am still an hour and half North of KC but I could travel south to get it if that will help save on shipping.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need to ship a '66 911 with no engine from Houston to Missoula, Montana. Any company suggestions?
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: RI to Athens, GA Reply with quote

I am possibly shipping my us down the east coast from Rhode Island to Athens, GA. Any east coast specific companies you could recommend? Thanks...
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm buying a running 1972 Karmann Ghia.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1467078

Car is in Los Gatos California

I'm in Boulder Colorado

Shall I buy a tow bar and get it myself or?

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We drove my son's '67 square 600 miles to buy my '69 square and drove them Both home without any major problems! You can rent a tow dolly from U Haul if you break down or would rather tow it home?
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:11 am    Post subject: That is an option Reply with quote

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We drove my son's '67 square 600 miles to buy my '69 square and drove them Both home without any major problems! You can rent a tow dolly from U Haul if you break down or would rather tow it home?


Good idea ...

Nothing like a good road trip !

Also - if your VW can make the trip, why not fly out & drive it home ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just aheads up for people not shipping from California or on a major interstate. Shipping cars isn't all rainbows and lollipops!

Shipping a bus from whitefish Montana to NC is near impossible! I have been going through 4 corners auto transport and they have been really nice. But it has been 11 days since they put it on the "board" and evidently no drivers are willing to drive the three hours off of I 90 to get it. Yesterday the lady at 4 corners said" they have to physically drive up there and get it", DUH of course they do. when I placed the order Jeff said the typical 5 days to get a pickup was not going to be realistic and it would be more like 7-10 days, now they want to give it till wednesday, making it 15 days! Do I try to remain patient and just leave it there till someone gets it or is this a lost cause?

I think that I may have to bribe the driver with either more cash or cocaine or hookers, or maybe all three.

This sucks! I am to excited about my new bus to have proper patience. I might have to fly up there and drive it or tow it with a u haul.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

akrobbaker wrote:
Just aheads up for people not shipping from California or on a major interstate. Shipping cars isn't all rainbows and lollipops!

Shipping a bus from whitefish Montana to NC is near impossible! I have been going through 4 corners auto transport and they have been really nice. But it has been 11 days since they put it on the "board" and evidently no drivers are willing to drive the three hours off of I 90 to get it. Yesterday the lady at 4 corners said" they have to physically drive up there and get it", DUH of course they do. when I placed the order Jeff said the typical 5 days to get a pickup was not going to be realistic and it would be more like 7-10 days, now they want to give it till wednesday, making it 15 days! Do I try to remain patient and just leave it there till someone gets it or is this a lost cause?

I think that I may have to bribe the driver with either more cash or cocaine or hookers, or maybe all three.

This sucks! I am to excited about my new bus to have proper patience. I might have to fly up there and drive it or tow it with a u haul.


No offense intended ....

But just how many vehicles do you think will be delivered to Whitefish, Montana this month ... Question

How many other vehicles do you think are headed to
North Carolina from Whitefish ... Question

You have a custom haul .... Idea

The fact is, 80% of private auto transport is brokered every day.

An auto broker is a sales person ....

Just like a car sales person or a realtor.

They have nothing to do with hauling, most of them have never
even towed a trailer.

So, they are going to tell you what you want to hear just to get a deposit out of you.

That is all they are after.

With #2 diesel averaging $4.00 a gallon nationwide, no one that
actually hauls is going to pay out of their pocket to go pick up your
vehicle.

Either you wait for the possibility of a connecting load bringing
a hauler close to Whitefish or you pay them to drive there empty.

Auto transport is all about the unloaded miles.

The actual haul is the easy part - getting to the pick up point
and from the drop off point to the next haul is the challenge.

Deal directly with a Hauler.
Pay no deposit.
Wait for connecting loads to be scheduled or pay unloaded miles.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

akrobbaker wrote:
Just aheads up for people not shipping from California or on a major interstate. Shipping cars isn't all rainbows and lollipops!

Shipping a bus from whitefish Montana to NC is near impossible! I have been going through 4 corners auto transport and they have been really nice. But it has been 11 days since they put it on the "board" and evidently no drivers are willing to drive the three hours off of I 90 to get it. Yesterday the lady at 4 corners said" they have to physically drive up there and get it", DUH of course they do. when I placed the order Jeff said the typical 5 days to get a pickup was not going to be realistic and it would be more like 7-10 days, now they want to give it till wednesday, making it 15 days! Do I try to remain patient and just leave it there till someone gets it or is this a lost cause?

I think that I may have to bribe the driver with either more cash or cocaine or hookers, or maybe all three.

This sucks! I am to excited about my new bus to have proper patience. I might have to fly up there and drive it or tow it with a u haul.


Not that exact area but I have been in that situation and my solution was to either:
1. Go haul it back myself (Truck and trailer or U-haul or whatever, have done this recently)
2. Go there in person and:
a. Drive it home if possible (done this multiple times)
b. Fly to major city, rent cheap car or u-haul, drive out there and bring vehicle to a major city or shipping point (Have considered this but Bus I was buying didn't work out)
3. Find a helpful site member in the area to move it somewhere major. Pay them less than a hauler charges to bring it to their house in a more major area (Have done this too - wayyyy cheaper than a real hauler, although I considered myself a bit lucky to find someone)
4. Pay seller to take it somewhere else major.

I'm a bit biased on what I do though because I pretty much ALWAYS want to see the car in person before purchase.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

akrobbaker wrote:
Just aheads up for people not shipping from California or on a major interstate. Shipping cars isn't all rainbows and lollipops!

Shipping a bus from whitefish Montana to NC is near impossible! I have been going through 4 corners auto transport and they have been really nice. But it has been 11 days since they put it on the "board" and evidently no drivers are willing to drive the three hours off of I 90 to get it. Yesterday the lady at 4 corners said" they have to physically drive up there and get it", DUH of course they do. when I placed the order Jeff said the typical 5 days to get a pickup was not going to be realistic and it would be more like 7-10 days, now they want to give it till wednesday, making it 15 days! Do I try to remain patient and just leave it there till someone gets it or is this a lost cause?

I think that I may have to bribe the driver with either more cash or cocaine or hookers, or maybe all three.

This sucks! I am to excited about my new bus to have proper patience. I might have to fly up there and drive it or tow it with a u haul.


The problem is that Whitefish is by Glacier National Rec Area and it's REALLY REMOTE out there. Not easy to get to. You'll likely have to get creative and try some of the things Everett suggested..
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I think all of you are right in one way or another. But If I tell some one that something can be done for some price by some date then I will make it happen. Evidently the shipping industry is not as organized or honest as I assumed. In my opinion IT SUCKS! Don't quote me a cost and time span if you cannot deliver. Just tell me "I will charge you less than anyone is willing take for picking it up and it will sit there for months possibly!"

I am just going to go get it myself!
If you want some thing done right..........
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:39 am    Post subject: Use Common Sense Reply with quote

akrobbaker wrote:
Yes I think all of you are right in one way or another. But If I tell some one that something can be done for some price by some date then I will make it happen. Evidently the shipping industry is not as organized or honest as I assumed. In my opinion IT SUCKS! Don't quote me a cost and time span if you cannot deliver. Just tell me "I will charge you less than anyone is willing take for picking it up and it will sit there for months possibly!"

I am just going to go get it myself!
If you want some thing done right..........


Page 13 on this thread contains some useful advice ....

From folks that have " been there - done that "

I haul every day & people call me every day.

It costs me $1.00 a mile on average to roll down the road
with a one ton diesel dually towing an enclosed trailer .... Idea

That price covers #2 diesel fuel - oil & filter changes - tires for my
truck & trailer - insurance.

That price does not include other scheduled equipment
maintenance - food - motel rooms - showers - wages of any kind.

At the end of the year I am lucky to break even .... Rolling Eyes

The price for hauling and the time frame that most folks have been given before they call me is just not possible
given the location where the vehicle sits - where it has to go - what their budget is.

With any service there is sometimes misrepresentation intended to entice someone into using the service - usually the cost is quoted below
what the cost to haul is when the service is hauling.

When you call a transport broker you are talking to a sales person
who is usually making representations on behalf of a third undisclosed party as to what that party will do - when they will do it - how much they will do it for .....

A sales person wants to make a sale - they are after a commission.

Again - no offense intended to you directly .....

But my guess is the broker quote you received was
for below cost transport .... Idea

Most of us fill up at the pump so we know what fuel costs.

Assuming the quote you received was for below cost transport,
why did you accept it .... Question

Every day folks are told things " too good to be true "
and most of us know not to believe those things ..... Wink

If a person does not pay the actual cost of a service or good,
someone else does, the difference is made up by someone else.

If you choose to buy a vehicle at a distance and if (for whatever reason)
you cannot go get it yourself, be prepared to pay a price for someone
else to get it that reflects the actual cost of providing the service.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Semi useful advice. What people need is a clarification on how and why the industry works the way it does.

First of all, there are over 20,000 vehicles needing to be shipped every single day! Yes, 20,000! 9 out of the 10 companies on the front page of google are either lead generation sites or brokers.

Carriers normally run specific routes and its a bitch to find a carrier that runs the specific route you need. So, this is where a broker comes in. Its the brokers job to seek out and find a driver running your route the week you need it. Well, there isnt always a carrier in your area when you need especially if you dont live in a Metro area. This is one of the major issues the industry has between customer, broker, and carrier. A customer wants his vehicle now a broker is calling and dispatching the vehicle, but there is none running that route.

Now, normally if the vehicle is priced right a vehicle can be picked up within 3-5 days unless its in the middle of nowhere. If its way off the beaten path its either gonna go for big bucks or not ever get picked up depending on where it is. So, get it to the nearest city you can or along a main highway. The main routes east to west are hwy 80, 40, and 10.

Now, lets throw some facts out...

1. No there isnt always a driver in your backyard running your route

2. If you get a lowball broker doing bad business normally they are out of Florida. ( I bet many of you will agree if you do your homework).

3. Quotes are always accurate: False many factors go into an estimate and estimate is all they are. Its just like going into a body shop and getting estimate on your finally tuned Chevelle for a paint job to find out that it is full of mud and crappy bodywork underneath and you just didnt see the mess until you look under the paint. Well, same goes for here. An estimate can be given, but maybe there isnt 10 cars to fill a carrier in the area or maybe your car is on the only one 75 miles away from everyone elses. You just cant see all the facts until its done.

4. Working directly with a carrier sounds like a great idea, but they charge an arm and a leg if you call them directly. Ever see Reliable's prices at Barret Jackson to ship stuff? Its way over priced. You can call someone and get your vehicle out of there for $500 cheaper no problem. And if they dont run your route, guess what? They use their own in house brokers;)

5. Be prepared to pay out your bottom next year for shipping, because bonds went from $10K to $75K a year, states are getting ridiculous on regulations for drivers, and well we all know how fuel prices and insurance is.


My family has always been in the business so I studied economics with a concentration in transportation. The industry is pretty basic, but a lot of people don't care enough to try to understand it. I am in the transportation business now after going through a bad situation as some of you have. I sat back and thought this is a perfect in to a business opportunity and ran with it every since. What better way to start and find a business niche than to start one in a business that you hear people piss and moan about all the time Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get it you guys I really do. But, as a customer am I supposed to conduct a complete financial investigation of the entire shipping industry before deciding on a shipping company? I mean businesses need to be responsible for their actions. I thought I was paying for someone else's expertise. Meaning if I took my car to a good painter, they should say it will cost between this and that and take however long to get done at the level the customer would like depending on what the actual body condition really is. AND then stick to that!

I would have paid more if I knew it would have got here sooner. I called like 10 places. 2 were between 2-3000 and the rest were around 1000-1200. So I picked one that was recommended on this site, had other good reviews (on a biased site I think now), and came in around 1200. I would have been completely happy with 1200 could take up to a month but 1800 will make it more enticing and probably take more like a week. I can only assume from everyones posts about my lack of realistic assumptions that the company I am dealing with TOTALLY knew the situation and low balled me to get my business but not my respect or my trust.

I was trying not to be a cheap ass, but not go all golden chariot either.

Whatever, my original post was simply trying to offer advice that if you are off the beaten path, it will be hard to get someone to get it. A fact that I thought was to be reflected in the price and timeline I was quoted. But that has not been the case for my personal experience.

I hope at least others can learn from my experience. Maybe this forum needs to list some company's that are charging the "correct" amount for transport and start some baseline prices for locations, etc.

I am trying not to be frustrated but I am frustrated.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:35 am    Post subject: Broker vs. Hauler Reply with quote

akrobbaker wrote:
I get it you guys I really do. But, as a customer am I supposed to conduct a complete financial investigation of the entire shipping industry before deciding on a shipping company? I mean businesses need to be responsible for their actions. I thought I was paying for someone else's expertise. Meaning if I took my car to a good painter, they should say it will cost between this and that and take however long to get done at the level the customer would like depending on what the actual body condition really is. AND then stick to that!

I would have paid more if I knew it would have got here sooner. I called like 10 places. 2 were between 2-3000 and the rest were around 1000-1200. So I picked one that was recommended on this site, had other good reviews (on a biased site I think now), and came in around 1200. I would have been completely happy with 1200 could take up to a month but 1800 will make it more enticing and probably take more like a week. I can only assume from everyones posts about my lack of realistic assumptions that the company I am dealing with TOTALLY knew the situation and low balled me to get my business but not my respect or my trust.

I was trying not to be a cheap ass, but not go all golden chariot either.

Whatever, my original post was simply trying to offer advice that if you are off the beaten path, it will be hard to get someone to get it. A fact that I thought was to be reflected in the price and timeline I was quoted. But that has not been the case for my personal experience.

I hope at least others can learn from my experience. Maybe this forum needs to list some company's that are charging the "correct" amount for transport and start some baseline prices for locations, etc.

I am trying not to be frustrated but I am frustrated.


Just guessing but it looks like you budgeted $1200.00 for
a 2400 mile minimum loaded transport @ http://goo.gl/maps/E6Jfy

That is 50 cents a loaded mile minimum.

That is unrealistic.

Sorry to tell you that - but it is ...... Shocked

Assuming you make the round trip - that is 4800 miles minimum.

The two replies immediately before your post:

One is from someone associated with a Broker in some capacity I assume
who just joined Samba yesterday ....

The other is from me who has been a member here since 2008
and has feedback here on Samba from other members ....

Of the quotes you received - how many were from Brokers
and how many were from Haulers Question

A Broker does not haul - they sell hauling on behalf
of others .... Idea

A Hauler does haul ..... Idea

You give the example of a painter - you could also use a mechanic as an example.

Would you rather talk to someone who is actually painting
or doing automotive repair on your vehicle or would you rather
talk to a sales person making representations and claims
on behalf of an unknown third party who will be working
on your vehicle ..... Question

Again, people call me every day and I give them advice based
upon their needs - not based on my need to sell them
anything ...... Wink

If you had contacted me I would have told you what
I have laid out in my earlier posts on this thread ..... Idea
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry everyone I am just bitter about the whole situation. I guess I wish the world was a better place. I am frustrated that I put myself in this situation and I hope I have learned my lesson. But now I need to fix my problem and simply get my bus. I really do appreciate everyones advice.


PS. United Road called me this morning and quoted me $1934 if they were to get it. Anyone familiar with them?
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