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mrmarcdude Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2005 Posts: 715 Location: Vacaville, Ca
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject: Sealing case and cylinders? |
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Hey i was wondering what you guys reccomend to seal the two case halfs? Any feedback on a specific product? What to stay away from? Thanks a lot guys |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76912 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Permatex Aviation will work.
Never ever use any silicone form-a-gasket. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
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SeVVenth Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2005 Posts: 678 Location: Winterset, Iowa
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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I use permatex on just about thing that has the possibility of leaking oil. Make sure to get a decent sized tub, it lasts quite a while. I had to tear my motor totally apart after I just got it together and I haven't even gone through a 1/5 of the bottle. |
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TristanM Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2002 Posts: 408 Location: moving on.
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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I use to use Permatex Aviation, but on the last few engines went with Curil-T and will be using it from now on. _________________ Don't Believe The Hype. |
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SeVVenth Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2005 Posts: 678 Location: Winterset, Iowa
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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^^Any reason why?^^ Less sticky? |
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John M. Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2005 Posts: 3833 Location: Boulder, CO
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TristanM Samba Member
Joined: May 27, 2002 Posts: 408 Location: moving on.
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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I just found it easier to work and less messy...but that is just my preference. I also liked the tube over the brush factor. _________________ Don't Believe The Hype. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76912 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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The Noof Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2005 Posts: 4346
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Specialty sealers such as Dirko and Yamabond are excellent also.Yamabond is made exclusively for applying to gasketless machined aluminum surfaces.Messy and expensive, but very effective. |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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I smell the need for a "sticky"! |
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Eaallred Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2003 Posts: 5756 Location: West Valley City, Utah
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Think of it this way. If you have 8 case sealers that all work at keeping the case halves dry, but one of them can be cleaned off easily with a paper towel the next time you have to get in there fix something, which do you think you should choose?
That's why I use Curil T. _________________ Eric Allred
You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; Jealousy you have to earn. |
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millerje78 Samba Amishman
Joined: October 16, 2005 Posts: 2445 Location: Holmes County, Ohio
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Yamabond definitely keep the engine from leaking oil out of the ordinary spots. (oil cooler seals, sump plate, valve covers) it takes a while to run out of the $8 tube. you just need to make sure you form a perfect furface of the goo, free of debris or air bubbles. It is kind of a pain to get off though when doing maintenance.
.02 _________________ always seeking a better way
my 73 standard project
do your research, consult with experts, and buy quality parts. you won't be sorry |
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steel buggin Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2003 Posts: 415 Location: Arcadia,Ca
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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1211 bond from Japan works great. |
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SeVVenth Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2005 Posts: 678 Location: Winterset, Iowa
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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You know I looked ALL OVER the damn place for that stuff. Couldn't find it anywhere around here. |
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polkaudio Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2006 Posts: 85 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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That's why I use Curil T. [/quote]
where is this available? |
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MCT Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 44 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Loctite 515 or 518, Anaerobic Sealer, I use it on everything I do on Airplanes Piston Aircooled engines and used it on my 1600cc and guess what?
Nice and dry, no leaks, its good for almost anything that needs to be sealed. _________________ 66 Bug, 1600cc DP Engine, 12 Volt |
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miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey
Joined: March 22, 2005 Posts: 9515 Location: Southern Maryland
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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One word-Hylomar.
http://www.hylomar-usa.com/
I'm not the spokesperson or anything, but we used this stuff when building jet engines (for the Navy), and I've used it on every engine I build. It's great becuase if you have to tear something back down, it's a snap to wipe off, and it seals very well. |
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RockNbus Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2006 Posts: 815 Location: So Cal
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helowrench Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2003 Posts: 567 Location: dallas texas
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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I use hylomar aero grade for everything. no drips no leaks no runs.
and removal is the easiest with the aerosol remover.
rob _________________ Current VWs:
70 bug vert for wifey
73Thing bucket o rust
73 914 1.7
12 Passat 2.5 Highway cruiser |
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GeorgeL Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2006 Posts: 7346
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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miniman82 wrote: |
One word-Hylomar.
http://www.hylomar-usa.com/
I'm not the spokesperson or anything, but we used this stuff when building jet engines (for the Navy), and I've used it on every engine I build. It's great becuase if you have to tear something back down, it's a snap to wipe off, and it seals very well. |
Both of the Mexican VW engines I've purchased came with a bead of Hylomar squeezed out of the case joint. Neither has leaked in years of use.
Now, if it were just available on the Permatex rack like it used to be...
Do any VW suppliers carry Hylomar?
George
BTW, do not buy this stuff from the Hylomar-USA site listed above. This stuff is expensive, but $28.50+shipping for a 100g tube is way too much!
http://www.cvproducts.com/cv/products/specItem.aspx?prodID=4771&brandID=94
http://www.fast-idleautosupply.com/index_files/Page664.htm |
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