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BlueGrasser Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2014 Posts: 562 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Haha, I'm not sure I'd consider that a "Good deal on a NICE Vanagon"
Probably a fair amount of scrap steel there though. I'm sure somebody will pick it up. _________________ Going to where the grass is bluer...
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ThankYouJerry Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2012 Posts: 2271 Location: Shakedown Street
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delta9007 Samba Member
Joined: March 17, 2008 Posts: 106 Location: Arcata,CA
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vanonimous Samba Member
Joined: October 19, 2013 Posts: 362 Location: Burien, Center of the Universe
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The Maple Bar Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 5 Location: On the road
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campism Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2007 Posts: 4491 Location: Richmond VA
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: Dishonest Samba Ad for a Hightop Syncro - Cheap |
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That's a shame because the original ad sounds like a van I would not mind having and at a fair price, but if everything is as you state then it becomes a whole different animal. Sorry it did not work out for you and thanks for the heads up. As a friend of mine is fond of saying, "Nothing is ever simple." _________________ '87 Westy in Wolfram Grey Metallic |
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J Charlton Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2007 Posts: 1546 Location: The True North Strong and Free
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:44 am Post subject: Re: Dishonest Samba Ad for a Hightop Syncro - Cheap |
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campism wrote: |
That's a shame because the original ad sounds like a van I would not mind having and at a fair price, but if everything is as you state then it becomes a whole different animal. Sorry it did not work out for you and thanks for the heads up. As a friend of mine is fond of saying, "Nothing is ever simple." |
I think its really unfortunate that one of our hightops is on that van. Over the years that I have been providing hightops I have dealt with a lot of folks and have been able to be flexible in terms of making arrangements for payment, timing etc. I've only been disappointed once - by the seller of this van - there is still $$$ outstanding from his purchase of the top more than 3 years later. Lots of promises to pay up etc etc etc -
I have saved all of the email string back and forth between us - long and short of it is that he was not truthful with the distributor WRT to being fully paid up when he arrived on short notice to pick up the top - I was without access to my records at the time - he, "Pirate" knew he owed $$$ and misrepresented his status to the distributor.
It took a while until I resolved that one rotten apple shouldn't spoil the bunch - I have since trusted several folks who have had unusual situations and all have proven to be completely trustworthy. _________________ NAHT hightop availability May 18 2023 -
Bend Oregon - for Oregon, California- (7 tot , 3 available), Kennewick Wa (6 tot, 1 available), Small Car Performance Fife Wa. (7 tot 4 avail ), Fairbanks Alaska (1 tot 0 avail)
Future availability TBD : Springfield Mass. Staunton Va, Florida, Colorado, Grand Junction Co., SLC probably late 2024 |
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BlueGrasser Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2014 Posts: 562 Location: Sacramento
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J Charlton Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2007 Posts: 1546 Location: The True North Strong and Free
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Dishonest Samba Ad for a Hightop Syncro - Cheap |
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J Charlton wrote: |
campism wrote: |
That's a shame because the original ad sounds like a van I would not mind having and at a fair price, but if everything is as you state then it becomes a whole different animal. Sorry it did not work out for you and thanks for the heads up. As a friend of mine is fond of saying, "Nothing is ever simple." |
I think its really unfortunate that one of our hightops is on that van. Over the years that I have been providing hightops I have dealt with a lot of folks and have been able to be flexible in terms of making arrangements for payment, timing etc. I've only been disappointed once - by the seller of this van - there is still $$$ outstanding from his purchase of the top more than 3 years later. Lots of promises to pay up etc etc etc -
I have saved all of the email string back and forth between us - long and short of it is that he was not truthful with the distributor WRT to being fully paid up when he arrived on short notice to pick up the top - I was without access to my records at the time - he, "Pirate" knew he owed $$$ and misrepresented his status to the distributor.
It took a while until I resolved that one rotten apple shouldn't spoil the bunch - I have since trusted several folks who have had unusual situations and all have proven to be completely trustworthy. |
In all fairness WRT the above post and the $$ outstanding on the purchase of the top, it is only fair to note that "Pirate" has now completely fulfilled his purchase of the top through a paypal transaction last night.
I feel that the entire incident has been unfortunate and wish "Pirate"all the best in terms of of doing what he has to do to establish himself as a valued member of the Samba community. _________________ NAHT hightop availability May 18 2023 -
Bend Oregon - for Oregon, California- (7 tot , 3 available), Kennewick Wa (6 tot, 1 available), Small Car Performance Fife Wa. (7 tot 4 avail ), Fairbanks Alaska (1 tot 0 avail)
Future availability TBD : Springfield Mass. Staunton Va, Florida, Colorado, Grand Junction Co., SLC probably late 2024 |
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uncommonvw Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2004 Posts: 230 Location: Jordan, ON Canada
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5911 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Dishonest Samba Ad for a Hightop Syncro - Cheap |
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J Charlton wrote: |
J Charlton wrote: |
campism wrote: |
That's a shame because the original ad sounds like a van I would not mind having and at a fair price, but if everything is as you state then it becomes a whole different animal. Sorry it did not work out for you and thanks for the heads up. As a friend of mine is fond of saying, "Nothing is ever simple." |
I think its really unfortunate that one of our hightops is on that van. Over the years that I have been providing hightops I have dealt with a lot of folks and have been able to be flexible in terms of making arrangements for payment, timing etc. I've only been disappointed once - by the seller of this van - there is still $$$ outstanding from his purchase of the top more than 3 years later. Lots of promises to pay up etc etc etc -
I have saved all of the email string back and forth between us - long and short of it is that he was not truthful with the distributor WRT to being fully paid up when he arrived on short notice to pick up the top - I was without access to my records at the time - he, "Pirate" knew he owed $$$ and misrepresented his status to the distributor.
It took a while until I resolved that one rotten apple shouldn't spoil the bunch - I have since trusted several folks who have had unusual situations and all have proven to be completely trustworthy. |
In all fairness WRT the above post and the $$ outstanding on the purchase of the top, it is only fair to note that "Pirate" has now completely fulfilled his purchase of the top through a paypal transaction last night.
I feel that the entire incident has been unfortunate and wish "Pirate"all the best in terms of of doing what he has to do to establish himself as a valued member of the Samba community. |
So... Yesterday this pirate was a shyster; today, after a public shaming, he's a "valued member of the Samba community"?
I don't think so, Tim. _________________ '84 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX
'86 Westy Weekender Poptop/2.5 Subaru/5 Speed Posi/Audi Front Brakes/16 x 7 Mercedes Wheels - answers to 'Dixie'
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debbiej Samba Member
Joined: December 14, 2008 Posts: 1554 Location: las cruces, nm
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:17 am Post subject: |
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That looks amazing!! |
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J Charlton Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2007 Posts: 1546 Location: The True North Strong and Free
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Dishonest Samba Ad for a Hightop Syncro - Cheap |
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I feel that the entire incident has been unfortunate and wish "Pirate"all the best in terms of of doing what he has to do to establish himself as a valued member of the Samba community.[/quote]
So... Yesterday this pirate was a shyster; today, after a public shaming, he's a "valued member of the Samba community"?
I don't think so, Tim.[/quote]
C'mon - if you're going to use something that someone else has written as a quote, at least use enough of it to establish the context of the original post - by omitting the "in terms of doing what he has to do to establish himself as a" you significantly changed the intent of the post _________________ NAHT hightop availability May 18 2023 -
Bend Oregon - for Oregon, California- (7 tot , 3 available), Kennewick Wa (6 tot, 1 available), Small Car Performance Fife Wa. (7 tot 4 avail ), Fairbanks Alaska (1 tot 0 avail)
Future availability TBD : Springfield Mass. Staunton Va, Florida, Colorado, Grand Junction Co., SLC probably late 2024 |
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porterbrown Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2005 Posts: 718 Location: Bentonville, AR
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DenverB Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2012 Posts: 704 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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http://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/4839676704.html
the price is way high on this at $13,995 but the 47,000 original miles on the type iv had me curious...
until I went and looked at the van yesterday and the overwhelming smell of mice shit and piss sent me running. The salesman said they "tried to get the smell out, but couldn't figure it out"... which means they didn't try at all, because opening up the cabinets revealed scatterings of scat everywhere.. gross is an understatement.
The van also needs a new tent up top.. but the engine bay was spotless as was the underside.
If you're on the hunt for an AC vanagon and don't mind stripping everything out and doing a deep-scrub on the van, steam cleaning the upholstery and re-facing every cabinet (and replacing the t-moldings) - I bet it could be had for way less..
Even though it's at a VW dealership, I knew way more than the salesman did about the car -- and I assume any Samba member would be the same. Basically: you've got the upper hand here. I let them know why it wasn't selling at that price, so they are well aware of the work that needs to be done. _________________ -------
'77 Transporter/camper (Bussy - Reef Blue/Pastel White)
'67 bug (Santos - VW Blue)
'84 Vanagon Westfalia (Pink Flamingo - Pastel White/Pink)
'88 Vanagon GL Westfalia (Frankie Says - Wolfram Gray)
'02 Eurovan Weekender (Green Apple)
'95-'03 Eurovan full campers and weekenders (rental fleet)
'84 -'91 Vanagon full campers and weekenders (rental fleet)
'72 Porsche 914 (Greta - RIP)
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joetiger Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 5076 Location: denver
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Did you happen to look at the EVC as well? Just curious what they're asking:
http://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/4839648403.html _________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0 "Pigpen"
'04 GTI 1.8T
'04 Golf R32
"get metaphysical with it. if it's simply a means to get to and from places, it will let you down. if it becomes your zen, it can't fail you." -dabaron
"Still, it's good to be afield."--VWagabond
Available Now! Vanagon to Louisiana--A Two-Lane Reckoning Through Past and Present
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DenverB Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2012 Posts: 704 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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We did. The van had like 85k miles, which is really solid for a 1995. They were asking somewhere in the mid 18's for the van, which frankly is a pretty decent price considering what they go for elsewhere. It's actually really clean and has a lot of service records -- though none of them were for a transmission fluid change, so they probably haven't done much to maintain that transmission. It also needs a new tent badly - the one they have on there is starting to crumble and rot in places. It has the hookups for the middle bench seat as well, but the dealership doesn't have the actual seat. The clear coat is gone from a lot of the top of the van and the poptop itself seems to be a replacement based on the service records. If you know EVCs well, the pleather guard over the rear popttop arms is also missing on one side, as is the front piece of the rear bench seat (frankly, those are ugly anyway and I would just make a wood one out of birch myself). There's also a crack in one of the rear storage bins above the hand shower and none of the curtains are in the van -- the blinds all work and look great, except the slider window window that would need replacing. You'd also need to get a new fridge vent on the side.
The positives are that it clearly hasn't spent much time in the heat or sun as the panels are all still a nice shade of gray (instead of fading brown due to the fire-retardant) and the velvet ceiling panels above the rear bench seat/bed and on the inside of the rear hatch are all still gray and haven't faded to the strange green color most seem to be these days. Oh, and the low miles. 85k on a 95 is pretty awesome for a EVC -- I didn't see any rust anywhere (i was climbing under the van in the showroom, much to Mr. Tynan's delight). In general, it's a clean van and will definitely make someone very happy with a little work.
Really, the only reason I didn't make an offer on it is because I'm sticking with 1997 and newer for our rental company because the newer vans have a few more safety features like dual front airbags and shoulder belts for the rear seat (hard to rent to families if they can't get a kid's seat in the back).
Edit: That van has been sitting there for months, so I can't imagine that they wouldn't let it go if you walk in and offer a reasonable amount for it. Walk in with a straight face and offer them $15k and I bet they come down. If not, walk out. They'll have to drop the price again eventually -- frankly, like the Vanagon, as a modern VW dealership have no idea what they are doing with campers. _________________ -------
'77 Transporter/camper (Bussy - Reef Blue/Pastel White)
'67 bug (Santos - VW Blue)
'84 Vanagon Westfalia (Pink Flamingo - Pastel White/Pink)
'88 Vanagon GL Westfalia (Frankie Says - Wolfram Gray)
'02 Eurovan Weekender (Green Apple)
'95-'03 Eurovan full campers and weekenders (rental fleet)
'84 -'91 Vanagon full campers and weekenders (rental fleet)
'72 Porsche 914 (Greta - RIP)
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nmerrill Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2014 Posts: 388 Location: Vermont
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DenverB Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2012 Posts: 704 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:02 am Post subject: |
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ha! That thing has actually sold. I jokingly said I was going to buy it on Facebook and it turns out that a friend-of-a-friend DID buy it and is bringing it back here to Colorado. Apparently it's going to live in Leadville with it's new owner. I'm going to have to get introduced to the guy at some point now, and I'll get more photos.
Here's the photo our mutual friend send me:
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'77 Transporter/camper (Bussy - Reef Blue/Pastel White)
'67 bug (Santos - VW Blue)
'84 Vanagon Westfalia (Pink Flamingo - Pastel White/Pink)
'88 Vanagon GL Westfalia (Frankie Says - Wolfram Gray)
'02 Eurovan Weekender (Green Apple)
'95-'03 Eurovan full campers and weekenders (rental fleet)
'84 -'91 Vanagon full campers and weekenders (rental fleet)
'72 Porsche 914 (Greta - RIP)
www.RockyMountainCampervans.com |
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wyldryce Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2011 Posts: 83 Location: Annapolis, MD
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:45 am Post subject: |
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That's a cool rig! But definitely not a '71 |
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