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moon-dawg
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 Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: Land Speed Ghias |
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There were a couple of Ghias that made a showing at Speed Week Aug 12-18 in Bonneville. No records were set but they made some respectable speed. I would be happy if my Ghia did 140mph in the quarter mile. 
#573 Qtr 139.667 Mile1 133.841 Mile2 140.417
#57 Qtr 131.600 Mile1 124.287 Mile2 129.995 |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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No wheelie bars on either car. Very interesting.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| What I found interesting is that both cars reached their near Max in the first 1/4 mile. Seems like they needed a few more gears. |
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vwdmc16
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70 140
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| A good question for debate: I figure with the correct suspension mods, wider tires, and discs on all 4. I would go up to 140-150kmh. I think after that you would run into aerodynamic issues that would be a lot harder to overcome. |
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| 70 140 wrote: | | I would go up to 140-150kmh. I think after that you would run into aerodynamic issues that would be a lot harder to overcome. |
whoa whoa wait, don't you mean 140 MPH not KPH?
140 -150 KPh = 87-93mph, that's nothing 
But surely a 500hp turbo 2600 TIV could get it above 190mph, the Bader ghia can supposedly do 300kph (180mph) with it's 330hp 993 engine and a small spoiler under the nose, but iI kinda doubt those claims don't you?
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vwdmc16
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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maybe these areodynamic bits would help, i saw this car in the back lot of a used car dealership here in Houston, but "it no for sale senior"
however being fibreglass, it may just rip off @ 120mph
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| vwdmc16 wrote: | | 70 140 wrote: | | I would go up to 140-150kmh. I think after that you would run into aerodynamic issues that would be a lot harder to overcome. |
whoa whoa wait, don't you mean 140 MPH not KPH?
140 -150 KPh = 87-93mph, that's nothing
But surely a 500hp turbo 2600 TIV could get it above 190mph, the Bader ghia can supposedly do 300kph (180mph) with it's 330hp 993 engine and a small spoiler under the nose, but iI kinda doubt those claims don't you? |
No I was thinking somewhere around 100mph tops. Thats it for me. The fun is all in the getting there. |
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Hey, I know those cars!  My father built them both!
My dad is Larry Monreal. AKA Laarry's Old Volks Home in San Bernardino.
(That's me standing behing the yellow car) We sold the green car about 8 years ago. The new owner is running a 2180, and needs to go over 175 MPH (hasn't come close yet) The yellow car is running class "H" size engine. Under 1500cc (1497) It has a water cooled Rabbit, de-stroked running an inter cooler, fuel injection and a Turbo. Dad's best speed to date with that size engine is 168 MPH Dad currently still holds 6 world land speed records. This year (and last  ) we had some turbo problems. But there's alwasy next year  Dad is 80 years old now and has been running at Bonneville since 1948.
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| 74 AUTOSTICK wrote: | Hey, I know those cars! My father built them both!
My dad is Larry Monreal. AKA Laarry's Old Volks Home in San Bernardino.
(That's me standing behing the yellow car) We sold the green car about 8 years ago. The new owner is running a 2180, and needs to go over 175 MPH (hasn't come close yet) The yellow car is running class "H" size engine. Under 1500cc (1497) It has a water cooled Rabbit, de-stroked running an inter cooler, fuel injection and a Turbo. Dad's best speed to date with that size engine is 168 MPH Dad currently still holds 6 world land speed records. This year (and last ) we had some turbo problems. But there's alwasy next year Dad is 80 years old now and has been running at Bonneville since 1948.
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Way cool! Why are they both going slower at 1 mile than at a quarter mile? For record, all you need is speed, not acceleration, right? Why not some real long gears?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| vwdmc16 wrote: | | The Bader ghia can supposedly do 300kph (180mph) with it's 330hp 993 engine and a small spoiler under the nose, but iI kinda doubt those claims don't you? |
I have spoken with someone who has ridden as a passenger in the Bader car. By his testimony, at the equivalent of around 170 mph on the demonstration run, the car was reportedly rather - shall we say - sketchy. She'll do the magic 300 (km/h), but it's scary.
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moon-dawg
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| 74 AUTOSTICK wrote: | Hey, I know those cars! My father built them both!
My dad is Larry Monreal. AKA Laarry's Old Volks Home in San Bernardino.
.... Dad's best speed to date with that size engine is 168 MPH ....Dad is 80 years old now and has been running at Bonneville since 1948.
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Roger,
That is great...good to see your dad is still doing what he likes best.
Do his friends call him Fast Larry? That is incredible, 6 land speed records.
Is that him in the driver’s seat? |
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| 74 AUTOSTICK wrote: | Hey, I know those cars! My father built them both!
My dad is Larry Monreal. AKA Laarry's Old Volks Home in San Bernardino.
(That's me standing behing the yellow car) We sold the green car about 8 years ago. The new owner is running a 2180, and needs to go over 175 MPH (hasn't come close yet) The yellow car is running class "H" size engine. Under 1500cc (1497) It has a water cooled Rabbit, de-stroked running an inter cooler, fuel injection and a Turbo. Dad's best speed to date with that size engine is 168 MPH Dad currently still holds 6 world land speed records. This year (and last ) we had some turbo problems. But there's alwasy next year Dad is 80 years old now and has been running at Bonneville since 1948.
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If anyone is interested, the green car
is currently for sale (although I'd be surprised if it's not already spoken for).
HERE is the link - just scroll about half way down the page and you'll see it.
I can vouch for the dealer, as I purchased my car from Bill a couple years ago.
I know he has had that car for a bit (not 8 years though), and I believe he has made at least one run at El Mirage with it.
There is a couple paragraphs about it on their "Lobby" page - again, just scroll about half way down the page.
If anyone does end up talking to Bill about the car, please be sure to tell him that Daryl (the guy that bought the yellow '67 Ghia coupe from him) sent you. |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject: Land Speed Racing Ghias(Bonneville-Maxton) |
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Just thought I would let the Ghia contingent know a Ghia class has been added to the 36hp Challenge. You can also race Ghias for top speed in the USFRA 130 Mile Per Hour Club in September on the salt. If you like high speed and Ghias, check out the information found at www.saltflats.com and follow the link to the 130 Club and if you like 36hp Ghias in particular, go to www.burlyb.com .
Additonal contact information is available at both sites..........
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:48 am Post subject: Re: Land Speed Racing Ghias(Bonneville-Maxton) |
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| 36hplandspeedracer wrote: | Just thought I would let the Ghia contingent know a Ghia class has been added to the 36hp Challenge. You can also race Ghias for top speed in the USFRA 130 Mile Per Hour Club in September on the salt. If you like high speed and Ghias, check out the information found at www.saltflats.com and follow the link to the 130 Club and if you like 36hp Ghias in particular, go to www.burlyb.com .
Additonal contact information is available at both sites..........
Burly |
Sweet! finally something in my neck of the woods to go to  see you at Bonneville
Thanks for the post BTW
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I would think that if you got the nose as low as practical and added a front airdam then the Ghia would do ok. I would say that a couple of degrees of nose down rake would be a good start. Also fill in the area between the bumper and the front sheetmetal. 13" front wheels would probably help get the nose down to the surface.
Some sort of rear spoiler would also be good if allowed by the rules. Something like what an NHRA Pro Stocker has.
IMO, the 1000cc classes and the 1500cc classes are the only ones that an ACVW would have even a tiny chance. In the 1500cc classes you have lots of DOHC 4valve motors to contend with. |
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I'm surprised there are not more Ghias running in the 36hp Challenge. OK the KG is a heavier car than the Beetle but this is more than offset by the slick Coupe shape plus its greater stability at speed.
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