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amishman
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 Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:56 pm Post subject: Starting my Thing after sitting a year - It Started! |
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My Thing has sat in my garage for a year or so. I should have been good about starting it every so often but had boxes and all sorts of stuff around it and never did. I decided to move all the crap out of the way today and see if she would start. I do have a 1/2 tank of gas. The fuel filter (yes in the engine bay but will remove on day and stick outside the engine compartment) is bone dry. I had though the fuel pump would kick in and fill it after a few attempts to start but no luck. No fuel in the clear filter that goes between the fuel pump and carb.
Not sure if the fuel pump is having an issue or what I should check. The engine does turn over and plenty of oil as I did an oil change before I parked her for a year.
So, do I need to remove the filter and try to start without the filter on and put the end of the hose in a bottle until I see gas come from it and then re-connect and see what happens or???
Thanks
tj
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Video Bob
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Pull the air intake off the carburator and pour in a little gas. After starting, the fuel pump should take over with no problem. 
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amishman
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| Pull the air intake off the carburator and pour in a little gas. After starting, the fuel pump should take over with no problem. |
Are you talking about the rubber sleeve that goes over the top of the carb and then goes over to the air cleaner?
Do I just pop that off and poor some gas in the hole? How much gas and any certain spot to pour it in?
I do not want to blow things up here. hehehe 
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A soda bottle capful should be enough to get her going. You need to loosen the screw on the band clamp slightly to take the rubber air cleaner elbow off of the carb.
Always be cautious when working with gasoline. It can be nasty if spark meets fumes.
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amishman
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A soda bottle capful should be enough to get her going. You need to loosen the screw on the band clamp slightly to take the rubber air cleaner elbow off of the carb.
Always be cautious when working with gasoline. It can be nasty if spark meets fumes.
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After I pout the capfull of gas in the carb, do I put the rubber air cleaner elbow back on before starting the Thing up or leave it off until engine is running and after it has ran for a bit, stick it back on once I turned the engine off?
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I would use starter fluid. A quick spray at the filter.
A thimble full of gas will work if you are paying attention.
In either case, get it running. Deal with the air cleaners and elbows after it has ran. |
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amishman
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OK all. Thanks for the tips. She started. Three capfulls if gas in the carb, one at a time, and the last one she started and continued to run. So, she started! Yeah!
Thanks again,
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tj,
Over in your other thread you just stated something I think gives me a clue about your non starting issue:
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| I have the Thing lifted on jacks in the rear waiting to finish brake job I started last year |
From my experience the tank works essentially on gravity.
The fuel pump really only has to lift fuel from itself to the carb body.
When the car wheels are on the ground, fuel will flow freely from the metal line coming around the left side of the shroud if it's unhooked.
Test it out sometime.
With the rear jacked up in the air, I would say the level in the rear of the car was higher than the tank, and since the tank is vented, fuel backflowed towards the front of the vehicle and eventually air was introduced into the fuel line probably from the carb venting.
No science here, just speculation on my part.
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amishman
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tj,
Over in your other thread you just stated something I think gives me a clue about your non starting issue:
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| I have the Thing lifted on jacks in the rear waiting to finish brake job I started last year |
From my experience the tank works essentially on gravity.
The fuel pump really only has to lift fuel from itself to the carb body.
When the car wheels are on the ground, fuel will flow freely from the metal line coming around the left side of the shroud if it's unhooked.
Test it out sometime.
With the rear jacked up on the air, I would say the level in the rear of the car was higher than the tank, and since the tank is vented, fuel backflowed towards the front of the vehicle and eventually air was introduced into the fuel line probably from the carb venting.
No science here, just speculation on my part. |
So the moral is if you ever get the famous VW engine fire where by gravity, gas just keeps pouring on the hot engine, we should build a hydraulic system at the rear tires, like a low-rider can do, and quickly switch the switch so the rear goes like 2 feet up, and then you run to the back and spray the fire retardent on it. That way less gas gets poured all over the engine. hehehehehe
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