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47bug
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| Is the rear view mirror for a 55convert any different than for a 57convertable? thanks for your help |
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Rich's 50
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| Yes it is and a 55 mirror will cost alot more than a 57 |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: convert mirror changes |
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| Is the rear view mirror for a 55convert any different than for a 57convertable? thanks for your help |
Diff like day and night and mucho bling bling
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vdubinit
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This hear is a 1956 convertible rear view mirror
Hear is the same angle but of my 54 convertible rear view mirror
again 1956 rear view mirror
same angle but of my 54 convertible
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vdubinit
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I also have a 56 vert rear view mirror that I must dig up. Its unrestored and has that kind of non polished center piece were the hinge point is. The one on my 54 was redone by kochs
anyone have a drivers sunvisor mine is shot
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Those look pretty similar to me with the exception of the bolt in the pivot mech and the adjusting nut.
I thought that a 1950-1952 vert had a unique mirror, a 1952 through 1957 were almost the same, with the only difference being the 1952-1954 mirror had the single visor setup as standard equip and in 1954 the double visor bar straight across with the mirror attaching arm on the passengers side became standard equip...
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vdubinit
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Those look pretty similar to me with the exception of the bolt in the pivot mech and the adjusting nut.
I thought that a 1950-1952 vert had a unique mirror, a 1952 through 1957 were almost the same, with the only difference being the 1952-1954 mirror had the single visor setup as standard equip and in 1954 the double visor bar straight across with the mirror attaching arm on the passengers side became standard equip... |
So are you saying that pre 53 convertible rear view mirrors only had one visor??? does anyone have a pic of a 53 mirror
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Not Safari Izzy
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Those look pretty similar to me with the exception of the bolt in the pivot mech and the adjusting nut.
I thought that a 1950-1952 vert had a unique mirror, a 1952 through 1957 were almost the same, with the only difference being the 1952-1954 mirror had the single visor setup as standard equip and in 1954 the double visor bar straight across with the mirror attaching arm on the passengers side became standard equip... |
So are you saying that pre 53 convertible rear view mirrors only had one visor??? does anyone have a pic of a 53 mirror |
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I am only 99% positive that a 54-57 are all the same.
Anyone have good pics of a orig 57. |
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vdubinit
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| izzy wrote: |
Those look pretty similar to me with the exception of the bolt in the pivot mech and the adjusting nut.
I thought that a 1950-1952 vert had a unique mirror, a 1952 through 1957 were almost the same, with the only difference being the 1952-1954 mirror had the single visor setup as standard equip and in 1954 the double visor bar straight across with the mirror attaching arm on the passengers side became standard equip... |
So are you saying that pre 53 convertible rear view mirrors only had one visor??? does anyone have a pic of a 53 mirror |
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thanks bro that helps alot ,,,,,, it looks like i need to bend my pivot rod back toward an angle to the windshield 
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I have a '71 Convertible, and it's nearly impossible to see a normal or small car behind the VW using just the stock mirror when top is down. It doesn't matter how tall or short the driver is, can't see over the top (yes, covered by boot). I rigged up an aftermarket mirror and bracket for top-down use just for safety, what have others done? This holds a slightly convex mirror about 5 inches above the top frame, so I can see over the folded-down top.
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47bug
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| Thanks for the info and photos, are you guys sure about the 57 looking like the earlier mirrors, my 57convert came as a basket case in boxes. The mirror that came with it would be like the 58-63 mirrors advertised for sale Is it possible there may have been a mid year change? Also does anybody reproduce the passenger side visor. |
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Not Safari Izzy
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| 47bug wrote: |
| Thanks for the info and photos, are you guys sure about the 57 looking like the earlier mirrors, my 57convert came as a basket case in boxes. The mirror that came with it would be like the 58-63 mirrors advertised for sale Is it possible there may have been a mid year change? Also does anybody reproduce the passenger side visor. |
It was a late year change in 1958. Some of the early square window dash verts got the early 54-57 mirror as well, but if you have an oval dash 57 vert then the 58-63 is incorrect. My 1956 vert came with that same 58-63 mirror in it as well and I switched it out for the correct mirror. Since the 58-63 bolts right up and works perfectly, its a way cheaper replacement alternative.
As for repro'ing the passenger side visor, I dont know of anyone that does that. I'm sure a bunch of people wish they did.
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Those look pretty similar to me with the exception of the bolt in the pivot mech and the adjusting nut.
I thought that a 1950-1952 vert had a unique mirror, a 1952 through 1957 were almost the same, with the only difference being the 1952-1954 mirror had the single visor setup as standard equip and in 1954 the double visor bar straight across with the mirror attaching arm on the passengers side became standard equip... |
So are you saying that pre 53 convertible rear view mirrors only had one visor??? does anyone have a pic of a 53 mirror |
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Where did you find these photos? I know they are linked to here on the samba, but were you the one that uploaded them? Those are some really nice pictures! Just interested where they came
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Not Safari Izzy
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They are from "The 1949-1959 VW Beetle" by Bob Wilson..great book, it really goes into detail about the Karmann vert mirror changes. I'm the one who uploaded them.
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vdubinit
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I wish some one would
It was a late year change in 1958. Some of the early square window dash verts got the early 54-57 mirror as well,
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I found this photo of a 53 vert interior is this not correct? I always thought that 53 verts also had the passenger visor too
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=247056
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| They are from "The 1949-1959 VW Beetle" by Bob Wilson..great book, it really goes into detail about the Karmann vert mirror changes. I'm the one who uploaded them. |
I'll have to look for that book! Is it still in print/production?
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