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John Moxon 
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c21darrel
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WooleyNelson
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Please use the correct terminology...'60s Ghias are known as "High-Nosed". 
.....and pre '60 Ghias are "low-lifes"?  |
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KGCoupe
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It's good to see that the prices of 60's Ghia coupes are getting up where they belong. The low-nosed cars are getting a run for their money.  |
I think it's fair to say that that car was restored with a very high level of "attention to detail", however IMO that does not always equate to "period correct" - two completely different things. |
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iowegian
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| It's good to see that the prices of 60's Ghia coupes are getting up where they belong. The low-nosed cars are getting a run for their money. |
I think it's fair to say that that car was restored with a very high level of "attention to detail", however IMO that does not always equate to "period correct" - two completely different things. |
Well, for forty grand you can't have everything. |
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60ragtop
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| KGCoupe wrote: |
I think it's fair to say that that car was restored with a very high level of "attention to detail", however IMO that does not always equate to "period correct" - two completely different things. |
I think it's fair to say most don't comprehend the meaning of the word restoration. It does not equate to cal look rubber when using it to describe a car with high attention to detail.  
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I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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| maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked |
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c21darrel
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iowegian
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| I think it's fair to say most don't comprehend the meaning of the word restoration. It does not equate to cal look rubber when using it to describe a car with high attention to detail. Laughing Rolling Eyes |
I think its fair to say they were high when they were paying attention to the details. |
In all fairness to the restorer/builder/owners of the car, I don't believe they wrote the ad copy (and probably didn't set the price). Look who is "helping" them market the car and has placed the ad. Enough said? |
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easy e
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c21darrel
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WooleyNelson
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| not only way overpriced - but no details on drivetrain other than Porsche trans.... |
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WooleyNelson
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| that said............... I'd love to see the build thread! |
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bobnorman
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kingkarmann
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I just came across this too......
My immediate reaction is this is certainly a typo.
I think the seller forgot a decimal.
It would be a steal at $750.00
I'm guessing 7500.00 is what the seller really meant.
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awreed
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http://www.oldbug.com/rodbuster.htm
With respect to the owner of this consignment shop, what the hell is wrong with the owners of these cars?
Also, this Rodbuster Ghia has a twin supercharged air-cooled motor with no cooling fan or cooling tin on it that I can see. Am I missing something there? I don't see a radiator and those cylinders appear to have fins on them. How long can you realistically run an uncooled engine like this before it just seizes up? |
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KGCoupe
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http://www.oldbug.com/rodbuster.htm
With respect to the owner of this consignment shop, what the hell is wrong with the owners of these cars?
Also, this Rodbuster Ghia has a twin supercharged air-cooled motor with no cooling fan or cooling tin on it that I can see. Am I missing something there? I don't see a radiator and those cylinders appear to have fins on them. How long can you realistically run an uncooled engine like this before it just seizes up? |
That car is a "relic" from another time when small fortunes were spent to build up show cars with the sole intention of winning rod and custom shows.
The cars were never intended to be driven. |
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John Moxon
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http://www.oldbug.com/rodbuster.htm
With respect to the owner of this consignment shop, what the hell is wrong with the owners of these cars?
Also, this Rodbuster Ghia has a twin supercharged air-cooled motor with no cooling fan or cooling tin on it that I can see. Am I missing something there? I don't see a radiator and those cylinders appear to have fins on them. How long can you realistically run an uncooled engine like this before it just seizes up? |
That car is a "relic" from another time when small fortunes were spent to build up show cars with the sole intention of winning rod and custom shows.
The cars were never intended to be driven. |
Yep...the fact that the car appears to be a Karmann Ghia is purely coincidental. It will appeal more to the "Rod & Custom" fraternity than to the KG enthusiast so shouldn't be judged as an overpriced VW...although it did get an airing here when it was "refreshed" in 2009: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=337799
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awreed
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Nominally a Karman Ghia or not, my problem is that these cars were never meant to be driven. All that time and money to build basically a giant piece of art that doesn't function as a car. Is there even any point in putting a crankshaft or lifters inside the case? Firing the car up would leave carbon on the exhaust tips and heat would tint the chrome, so that's a no go.
I used to flip through the Lowrider magazines as a kid and get blown away by the detail on some of those insanely built cars. But few of them were actually road worthy. If anything, they could drive awkwardly for a few feet before being staged on a rotating platform.
f***ing ridiculous, IMO.
Even if I bought a beautifully restored samba for $100,000+ I would drive that thing everywhere. Life is meant to be lived, and money is just money. Nothing against normal show cars, but I just don't get the undrivable ones like this Karman Ghia.
It still is a beautiful car. I just wish it was functional as well. Show some youtube videos of it on the 1/4 mile strip, then I'd change my tune. |
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Altema
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| It still is a beautiful car. I just wish it was functional as well. Show some youtube videos of it on the 1/4 mile strip, then I'd change my tune. |
It has been fired up for a few seconds, and I was impressed that it ran. But, you are not going to go far in it because it was made as art. Rodbuster has the distinction of taking first place in car shows that were not VW specific, which is something that no other Ghia (or cars resembling a Ghia) have ever done. A cooling shroud and the necessary hardware would hide a lot of the work, although there are some VW's that get raced in the 1/4 with the belt off or very loose.
On the other side of the coin, I have a friend that builds rods from 30's and 40's American cars, and they can be daily driven. His son used a 38 Chevy 8 window sedan for his prom date, and his other cars took second and third place at the Detroit Autorama a few years back, even though they were also used as daily drivers. First place car at that show was like Rodbuster; pushed on and off the trailer... but it won and that was it's purpose. |
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