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willow204 Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2006 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:11 am Post subject: Wind Lacing? |
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Hi I've just got a new carpet kit for my 1960 Ghia. the carpet is not very neat near where the door hinges are and I've been told I need wind lacing or something!
Does anyone know what this is or can someone send me a pic? [email protected]
It's hard to get good advice in Australia so any help would be appriciated. Thanks
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Ghiaddict Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2002 Posts: 2632 Location: Now in Honea Path, SC
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:47 am Post subject: |
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The windlace is the vertical beading strip (vinyl)
installed along the front and rear edges of the
body door openings. Often found missing or in
terrible shape, so many Ghias no longer have them.
Not sure when they were introduced into production,
but OG back to 1960 for sure.
Here are some pics of the windlace install on
a recently restored 1969 KG cabrio:
Not sure how much they'd help with your problem, since
they are properly installed underneath the carpet (and the metal
edge bracket in the front). _________________ ****************************
Karmann Ghia & Beetle parts available.
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coad Samba Scapegoat
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Go to any good upholstery shop and tell them what you need. They can sew you 10 feet or whatever it takes for next to nothing. Basically it is just a piece of round rope-shaped foam with vinyl that matches your carpet sewn around it, and then it has a lip.
Then you just cut what you need and glue it on with the lip under the carpet. It gives a nice finished look to the edges.
They'll know what you want. If they don't then go to a different shop. |
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Bones 53 Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2005 Posts: 661 Location: Reno NV
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: |
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I bought a length about 8 feet long from sewfine. Nice job on it easy to install and reasonabel. |
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willow204 Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2006 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks heaps guys that was great! |
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1958ghia Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2001 Posts: 249
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:25 am Post subject: |
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I also wanted to comment that if the carpet isn't finished on the rear edge of that piece, it was probably because you need the metal strip that attaches to the sheetmetal kickpanel, then "pinches" over the rear edge of the carpet. That is how my '58 was, but I dont know about '60. Anybody know what year they stopped installing these dang things? Pretty hard to find, and you can see them as a light beige strip between my windlacing and carpet here:
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Ghiaddict Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2002 Posts: 2632 Location: Now in Honea Path, SC
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:33 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I mentioned those metal edging strips previously.
They are pictured (black) in the first image above.
AFAIK they continued to be used through the end
of production in 1974. For those in need, send me a PM. _________________ ****************************
Karmann Ghia & Beetle parts available.
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1958ghia Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, you learn something new everyday.. I thought you were talking about a vinyl piece, not the metal piece. I must have missed the black metal piece in the picture. I was under the impression that the carpet was supposed to be clamped into that, not installed in front of it. But maybe that just has to do with whether your carpet has the finished edge or not. Thanks! |
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Gary Person of Interest
Joined: November 01, 2002 Posts: 17069 Location: 127.0.0.1
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Ghiaddict wrote: |
Yes, I mentioned those metal edging strips previously.
They are pictured (black) in the first image above.
AFAIK they continued to be used through the end
of production in 1974. For those in need, send me a PM. |
Yes, those pieces were used to the end of production. I think I will reproduce those as well as I've sold quite a few of the good, used sets I had. _________________ West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943) |
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Ghiaddict Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2002 Posts: 2632 Location: Now in Honea Path, SC
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Just to clarify;
Vinyl windlace first on the body panel.
Metal edging strip on top of the windlace.
Carpet on top of both,
with the rear edge tucked into the lip of the metal strip.
Naturally, you can tuck more carpet into the lip if
there's no finished edge on that particular section. _________________ ****************************
Karmann Ghia & Beetle parts available.
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Buggeroff Argumentative Bastard
Joined: October 16, 2004 Posts: 1124 Location: Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:04 am Post subject: |
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I'm not clear on what, if any changes were made to the style of these trim pieces.
My 57 has the vinyl wrapped and stitched around what appears to be a fairly stiff piece of rubber hose which is brittle with age.
It should pretty straight forward to obtain some fresh hose and wrap it with nice new vinyl, but for the newer car owners would this method be correct ?
Chris. _________________ "Chris of the Ozarks"
Headlinerless 57 Ghia
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Ghiaddict Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2002 Posts: 2632 Location: Now in Honea Path, SC
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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These trim pieces basically stayed the same
throughout the Ghia production run.
Making your own out of fresh materials
would work, no matter if for lowlight or fatchick. _________________ ****************************
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coad Samba Scapegoat
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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crtclff wrote: |
I'm not clear on what, if any changes were made to the style of these trim pieces.
My 57 has the vinyl wrapped and stitched around what appears to be a fairly stiff piece of rubber hose which is brittle with age.
It should pretty straight forward to obtain some fresh hose and wrap it with nice new vinyl, but for the newer car owners would this method be correct ?
Chris. |
Yes.
I've seen rubber and I've seen cotton rope, and the modern stuff is foam. Once it's installed it will all loook the same.
Here's a couple pics of wind lace from the internet
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KGCoupe Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2005 Posts: 3580 Location: Putting the "ill" and "annoy" in Illinois
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Anything will work - the question is, which one will give off that proper odor that we all know and love as it ages? (Ode d' VW Vintage) |
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The aussie Trimmer Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2006 Posts: 385 Location: Western Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: Wind Lacing? |
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willow204 wrote: |
Hi I've just got a new carpet kit for my 1960 Ghia. the carpet is not very neat near where the door hinges are and I've been told I need wind lacing or something!
Does anyone know what this is or can someone send me a pic? [email protected]
It's hard to get good advice in Australia so any help would be appriciated. Thanks
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Hi Willow204
If you need any Australian help on your Ghia, you can contact me on [email protected] and I should be able to help with any trim, etc questions you may have.
cheers, Kev. |
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72Coupe Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2005 Posts: 177 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Willow. I was looking for this same info... guess I didn't ask politely enough... Or maybe since my daily driver isn't up to the fanatical standards of some here, I didn't rate a reply. Either way, I have been looking for this windlacing for our car and have not been able to purchase it. Guess I'll take their advice and try to get someone to make me some.
Best Regards... |
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Ghiaddict Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2002 Posts: 2632 Location: Now in Honea Path, SC
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:30 am Post subject: |
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72Coupe,
Saw the other posting of yours with the photo. Just figured you'd see
this thread and it would provide some answers for you.
BTW, your daily driver is much nicer condition than the '74
that is my current ride! Nice work and keep it going. _________________ ****************************
Karmann Ghia & Beetle parts available.
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72Coupe Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2005 Posts: 177 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Ghiaddict wrote: |
72Coupe,
BTW, your daily driver is much nicer condition than the '74
that is my current ride! Nice work and keep it going. |
Thank you for the kind words.. I have tried to keep close to stock without spending a fortune. But it has several parts off other year cars (decklid) and the previous owner frenched in an electric antenna... so it will never be a show winner. Just a nice daily driver. Again, thanks for the nice comment. |
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Cobey Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2004 Posts: 2022 Location: Lost in NorCal Space
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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I've been wondering what those were! Thankfully, I didn't pitch them with the rest of the old interior. Picked up some new vinyl for them tonight and started "rebuilding" them and the hinge cover plates. I'll have to pull the front carpet up enough to install them, but, oh well! _________________ (0)(=|=)(0) 68 Ghia Vert - Gina
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pkane Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2005 Posts: 284 Location: Loganville, GA
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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I had to ask previously about the metal frames in the past. I thought I would add this photo to the thread, so people can see what they look like (unrestored). My carpet has a finished edge, but I still plan to insert under the lip.
_________________ Pat Kane
71 Ghia Vert |
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