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[email protected] Banned
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: rear lowering question |
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I just re installed my torsion bars and pre set the angle to 15 degrees. As far as I know thats pretty low. Can anyone give me an estimated drop in inches? Im doing this for the first time. If I need to raise it I have the body off so it will be easier I suppose. I was looking to go 2 notches/splines down originally. I settled on 15 degrees. So before I go any further can someone lend me a hand?
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You will lower your car 1.45" if you index your spring plates at 15° instead of the factory mark of 20°. Every degree that you change lowers the car approximately .3". |
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vwnut1 Samba Member
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Notching metal out of the the rear drop plates with a plasma cutter/oxy fuel torch always struck me as crazy. This is old school for sure and NOT a choice I would make, so many other well engineered options currently on the market. _________________ 1957 VW Oval Resto Mod |
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OLDBUGPROJECT Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: rear lowering question |
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[email protected] wrote: |
OLDBUGPROJECT wrote: |
I just re installed my torsion bars and pre set the angle to 15 degrees. As far as I know thats pretty low. Can anyone give me an estimated drop in inches? Im doing this for the first time. If I need to raise it I have the body off so it will be easier I suppose. I was looking to go 2 notches/splines down originally. I settled on 15 degrees. So before I go any further can someone lend me a hand?
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You will lower your car 1.45" if you index your spring plates at 15° instead of the factory mark of 20°. Every degree that you change lowers the car approximately .3". |
Thank you so much! I watched your youtube videos and attempted to gauge it from there. Im not going for a "dumped" look on my car. Just something that will have a good stance. So my equivalency if we were referring to how many notches that is (since I was merely going off of my angle finder) would be? Just for further reference. |
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[email protected] Banned
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:24 am Post subject: Re: rear lowering question |
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OLDBUGPROJECT wrote: |
[email protected] wrote: |
OLDBUGPROJECT wrote: |
I just re installed my torsion bars and pre set the angle to 15 degrees. As far as I know thats pretty low. Can anyone give me an estimated drop in inches? Im doing this for the first time. If I need to raise it I have the body off so it will be easier I suppose. I was looking to go 2 notches/splines down originally. I settled on 15 degrees. So before I go any further can someone lend me a hand?
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You will lower your car 1.45" if you index your spring plates at 15° instead of the factory mark of 20°. Every degree that you change lowers the car approximately .3". |
Thank you so much! I watched your youtube videos and attempted to gauge it from there. Im not going for a "dumped" look on my car. Just something that will have a good stance. So my equivalency if we were referring to how many notches that is (since I was merely going off of my angle finder) would be? Just for further reference. |
I've seen a lot of COMPLETELY in accurate information about this on the web, so hopefully this post will clarify this question: if you index the inside of torsion bar only one tooth (notch) alone then the angle change is 360°/40 teeth = 9°, whereas if you index the outside one tooth (notch) alone then the angle is 360°/44 teeth = 8.818°, A LESSER AMOUNT for sure.
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[email protected] Banned
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:34 am Post subject: |
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However if you rotate the torsion bar one tooth on the inside (9°) but rotate the spring plate one tooth on the outside of the torsion bar in the opposite direction (8.18°) then you get an indexability angle of .818° (9° - 8.181° = 0.818°). Believe it or not there are other methods to fine tune this madness - all mathematically derived of course. |
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canadadude Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2015 Posts: 41 Location: Regina ,Sasktachewan
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: Lowering the rear |
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I have a question on lowering my 66 beetle .Ive purchased the adjustable spring plates and want to lower about two inches?Ive marked the inner splined shaft and outer splined collar.Do I install my adjustable plate one spline up (towards fender)on outside collar and then use the adjustable plates to fine tune the adjustmen?Thanks for your help I have read all of these posts and just really confused myself and trying to only do this once,
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Dauz Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Lowering the rear |
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I'd install those dropped spring plates at the same angle and tune from there. |
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canadadude Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Lowering the rear |
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Im looking to lower the rear about 3" total was going to move outer spline up 1 tooth and then use adjusters to get the rest will this work? Or will I get this amount of travel with plate in original spot and just use adjusters?Thanks for response![/img] _________________ 66 VW Beetle |
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canadadude Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Lowering the rear |
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Can anyone tell me when using adjustable spring plates and you lower it ,do I remove the rubber stoppers and let the shocks do their work?Thanks
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wyatt.bales Samba Member
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gabyzvw wrote: |
finally got back to this thread this is what mine looks like after two splines i marked both sides before removing and fortunatly everything went smoothly and love the stance in the rear |
I know this post is old, but did anyone happen to go with shorter shocks on the rear? I lowered mine two splines (4inches) and need new shocks. Figured I'd ask here real quick. |
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canadadude Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: Lowering the rear |
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I didn’t get shorter shocks _________________ 66 VW Beetle |
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wyatt.bales Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: Lowering the rear |
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canadadude wrote: |
I didn’t get shorter shocks |
Right now I'm sitting on the bump stop, I saw that JBUG's says to cut them in half. I will do that tomorrow.
I'll get new shocks as well but with that, the car won't ride on the bump stops? |
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