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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20233 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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67T1 wrote: |
gunbab wrote: |
I have a question about lowering my brazil bus.
I have lowered spindels in the front (8cm) and how many splins do need to lower for a nice horizontal stance?
I have RGB´s in the rear.
15inch wheels
Witch tyres should you mount on my wheels?
And could i use normal new handbrake cabels? |
Here is my advice. It sounds like you are approximately 3 inches down in the front. I would not go any lower than 2 splines on the rear torsion bar/spring plates. If you go down to 3 splines, you WILL ruin your RGBs. I personally went three down and ate up my bearings up and starved the RGBs of oil. However I knew what I was doing and the risk associated with it because I was going to install a 68 bug transmission, which I did. I recommend 2 splines, however you may have to adjust according to how it "looks." I know it is economical, however I would HIGHLY recommend that you consider a 68 bug transmission with offset spring plates since you will lose three inches eliminating your RGBs. Look at my friend's (surfr4evr) blue/white one, 7th post down http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=217649&start=960. He uses 175/55-15s all the way around and it looks good. You may be able to use 185/60/15 as well with no problems. He has lowered spindles and two splines down in the rear. However I know that he now has a transmission and offset spring plates. Hope this helps. Good luck! |
Just saying "go two splines down" doesn't really mean much. You need to use a combination of inner and outer splines to dial in your ride height. I would not go too low with RGB's, as you said, as they become starved for gear lube and get ruined.
Lose the RGB's, get offset or modified spring plates, and don't look back. You don't need a 68 tranny, you need long axle/long spline axles that came from a 68 bug, or a swing axle type 3. You can either use the long/long axle tubes and offset spring plates, or get/make modified short axle tubes and modified bus spring plates.
You can also drop the dough for some adjustable spring plates to really fine tune the ride height. Whichever way you go, do it right and take your time. _________________ nothing |
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bergfan Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2007 Posts: 150 Location: NewZealand
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:07 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Correct me if im wrong but dont the RGBs have there own oil reservoirs ? |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69734 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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bergfan wrote: |
Correct me if im wrong but dont the RGBs have there own oil reservoirs ? |
They have their own fill and drain plugs but they are connected to the center via the axle tubes.
If you fill the center only, it will flow out to the RGBs to keep them at the proper level... as long as the RGBs are at the right height. _________________ How to Post Photos
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squareonair Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2005 Posts: 990 Location: springfield,missouri
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Front
145/65/15
15x4 inch wheels
2.5 narrowed front beam
3.5 flipped spindles
1.5 raised steering box
drum brakes
Rear
195/65/15
15x5.5 deep wheels
3 inch narrowed rear torsions
long axle/long spline axles
short axle drum brakes
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squareonair Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2005 Posts: 990 Location: springfield,missouri
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:58 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Front
155/60/15
15x4.5
3.5 narrowed front beam
3.5 flipped spindles
1.5 steering box raise
waggenswest drilled and vented willwood porsche disk brakes
Rear
215/65/15
15x6 Deep
stock torsion
Wide5 offset springplate
long axle/long spline trans
waggenswest drilled and vented willwood porsche disk brakes with drum e-brakes in center hub
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6sixTinBox Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 539 Location: Confinement
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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cdennisg wrote: |
Just saying "go two splines down" doesn't really mean much. You need to use a combination of inner and outer splines to dial in your ride height. I would not go too low with RGB's, as you said, as they become starved for gear lube and get ruined.
Lose the RGB's, get offset or modified spring plates, and don't look back. You don't need a 68 tranny, you need long axle/long spline axles that came from a 68 bug, or a swing axle type 3. You can either use the long/long axle tubes and offset spring plates, or get/make modified short axle tubes and modified bus spring plates.
You can also drop the dough for some adjustable spring plates to really fine tune the ride height. Whichever way you go, do it right and take your time. |
Noted. _________________ 1966 13 Window Deluxe
It is what it is |
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henk Samba Member
Joined: June 28, 2006 Posts: 157
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:38 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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squareonair wrote: |
Front
155/60/15
15x4.5
3.5 narrowed front beam
3.5 flipped spindles
1.5 steering box raise
waggenswest drilled and vented willwood porsche disk brakes
Rear
215/65/15
15x6 Deep
stock torsion
Wide5 offset springplate
long axle/long spline trans
waggenswest drilled and vented willwood porsche disk brakes with drum e-brakes in center hub
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Looks great with those fat tires on the back.
Must be fun to change the wheels on the back.
Henk!!! |
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jweymar Samba Member
Joined: October 19, 2013 Posts: 15 Location: Socal
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:52 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Front: Wagenswest 4" beam, 1 notch from highest, airlift bagged. Federals 165/45/15. Fuchs 15*5, willwood calipers. 2" inch raised box. qa1 shocks. Rollers for dem bumps..
Rear: Wagenwest IRS rear, spring plates bug tranny (FF). Standard axles. qai shocks, 15*5 fuchs, federals 165/55/15. airlift bagged willwood calipers with drum emergency..
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Stephbong Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2010 Posts: 167 Location: Brussels
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:26 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Hi,
It's my first split bus and it's lowered with IRS and adjustable spring plates, everything mounted by a pro, very well.
Adjustables spring plates are more a less to the middle adjusted and I'd like to go lower at the rear, my question can appear dummy but: how do I adjust?
1. Remove rear wheels
2. Adjust with the "big screw" while counting number of turns to reproduce the same on the opposite site?
- I've to touch on the screw that is a little bit forward to get play?
Do I miss something?
By the way I've an adjustable front beam with lowered spindles 3.5, I suppose the principe is the same to adjust as on a bug
Thank you for explanations!
Steph
Here's how the bus sits now, as I know we love pictures
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20233 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:36 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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You should contact the company that built the plates to get a copy of their install and adjustment instructions. _________________ nothing |
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Stephbong Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2010 Posts: 167 Location: Brussels
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:55 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Ah, ok thanks, I tought it was the same for all adjustable spring plates
Krgds |
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20233 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Stephbong wrote: |
Ah, ok thanks, I thought it was the same for all adjustable spring plates
Krgds |
They are all basically the same, but the manufacturer's instructions will (should?) be much more clear and concise than trying to explain it here. Hopefully they have a bunch of photos, too. _________________ nothing |
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bergfan Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2007 Posts: 150 Location: NewZealand
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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You have to loosen the lock nut on the " big screw " then loosen that other bolt and adjust the " big screw " till you get the desired drop or lift , same on the other side then tighten the lock nuts. |
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Stephbong Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2010 Posts: 167 Location: Brussels
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:48 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Hi,
They call me yesterday to give explanation
No need to remove the wheel if you want to go lower (upper it's needed)
-First loosen a little the "bolt on the middle", it's a 16 in metric
Then Loosen the bolt on big screw and adjust
-Thight the two bolts
Looks simple
Thanks! |
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Help Help Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2013 Posts: 117 Location: Running willy-nilly with scissors in So Cal
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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:01 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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I like the skid wheels on the blue bus a few posts up. I recognize the skid wheels as readily available RV items but I'd love some pics of how people have attached them.
Here's a link I found to source the wheels. http://www.rvpartscountry.com/Mini-Weld-on-Steel-Skid-Roller.hyml |
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SteveVWBusArnold Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2016 Posts: 2
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Anyone put 18" wheels on a split window? Does it require modifications? I will need to change out axles to get a bolt pattern that will fly with 18's ..need help deciding. |
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typ914 Samba Member
Joined: October 19, 2012 Posts: 227 Location: Atlanta, Ga
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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This question was posted a few years ago but I would like to see if there are any updates. I have a 58 SC project and a complete set of 944 brake compnents including rear trailing arm s and front spindles. Also included are a set of 16"phone dials wheels, 7 and 8s. How easy/difficult would it be to use these components on the SC. |
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1958kafer Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2015 Posts: 16 Location: South Australia
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Hi, has anyone got 6.5 inch BRM'S on the back of there bus? Pictures and specs would be great. Cheers |
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CPO_05 Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2011 Posts: 137 Location: Lakeside, CA (San Diego)
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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In the middle of a straight axle conversion on my 67, using Thing drums so I can use my stock rims. Stock tires I have are 195/75/R14 and they will not fit in between the body and drums.
For those that are running close to this stock size (185s), how did you get your tire to fit? _________________ 1967 Kombi
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bergfan Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2007 Posts: 150 Location: NewZealand
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Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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You need to place a scissor jack between the axle housing and the chassis to force the axle down to provide room |
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