Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses

electronictofu · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:24 am Post subject:

Hey guys, I'm trying to take advantage of labor day sales on my rear disc brakes! Hope you can help. Aaron from Widefive made my offset spring plates, it's a long axle type 1 rear, 15" 5 spoke wheels, offset spring plates, lowered quite a bit, and it's a 65' deluxe. Aaron said any long axle type 1 kit should work but may need spacers, and also I'll need a new master cyl.

Will this kit work:
http://www.jbugs.com/product/22-2906.html

Or here because it's cheaper:
http://www.kustom1warehouse.net/Rear_disc_brake_ki..._5x205.htm

If so, what else may be needed?

Thanks in advance...

Im not sure where the spacers come into play, but currently my tires are pretty wide (I can't recall the size right now) but I need to actually remove the axle from the spring plate to get my rear tires off.

busworks · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:23 pm Post subject:

Looks like the sme kit.

Spacers depending on what you heel you're running. May not need any at all.

electronictofu · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:57 pm Post subject:

motofly196 · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:08 pm Post subject:

Don't waste your time starting with rear disc brakes if you still have front drums. Over 70 percent of braking is done in the front. Invest in front brakes first is what I'd recommend. I have CSP disc brakes on my single cab...they will stop so hard they'll throw you through the window in a panic! Definitely worth the money!!

electronictofu · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:16 pm Post subject:

cdennisg · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:42 pm Post subject:

electronictofu · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:53 pm Post subject:

Oh nice links thanks!

I saw a couple similar to those at autozone and kragen/o'reily but the curvature wasn't the same. I Wasnt sure if mine were really early, or later model.

Split 66' · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:07 pm Post subject:

I got all of my Type3 parts from ISP West, including drums and brake pads. They were never out of anything T3, for me.
http://www.vwispwest.com/pg96/

For the DCMC: the larger the bore, the heavier the foot pressure required, the bigger the brakes you can run. I use a late Bay DCMC, it has the larger bore.

For smaller brakes, the rabbit one works with lighter foot pressure:
http://www.wagenswest.com/partstore/index.php/disk...r-kit.html
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motofly196 · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:30 pm Post subject:

Technicality...but make sure you are asking for the right thing.

Drums=Shoes
Disc= Pads

At one time, that probably didn't matter...but with the guys behind parts counters these days, it definitely does!!

DubStyle · Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:36 am Post subject:

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Front narrowed so the tubes were flush to my side plates. Flipped spindles and adjusters
Front tire: 155-60-15

Rear long axles with the rear torsion narrowed 3"
Rear tire: 195-65-15
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electronictofu · Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:42 am Post subject:

Well it's done. Glad I spoke to you all before ordering, I didn't do the rear disc at this time, I'll try to source the correct rear shoes from the links above, thanks!

I ended up choosing the Saco kit & DCMC from Ronnie at Bustoration. Pretty stoked. Will have front disc installed by next week. Twisted Evil

RAPShawaii · Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:28 pm Post subject: 1965 Kombi - Mango

Front:
Wagenswest - Complete 4" Narrowed adjustable beam with flipped spindles and Wilwood Disc Brakes; Empi - 15 x 5 Gloss Black BRM; Continental Tire - 145/65/15

Rear:
Benco - Type I Transmission; Wagenswest - Boomerang Spring Plates; AC Industries - Rear Disc Brakes; Empi - 15 x 6.5 Gloss Black BRM; Bridgestone Tire - 205/55/15

electronictofu · Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: 1965 Kombi - Mango

electronictofu · Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:42 am Post subject:

For from Disc brakes and Dual Circuit Master Cylinders, do you guys know the difference between this:
http://www.sacooffroad.com/proddetail.php?prod=113-611-015DOR

And the one Ronnie sells at Bustoration:
http://www.bustoration.com/2-Wheel-Or-4-Wheel-Disc-Brake-Master-Cylinder-Kit_p_2120.html

Aside from the extra T and such it comes with?

I ordered the SACO front disc brake kit, and also the Bustoration DCMC. Just curious about the one SACO sells as it's $100 cheaper.

tarzan271 · Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:09 pm Post subject:

RAPShawaii · Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:34 am Post subject:

I would recommend getting the kit. It is more of a hassle to order everything separate. As for the color it's a VW Mango.

Dubskii · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:07 pm Post subject:

I would like to do a mild lowering job. Was thinking of flipped spindles up front and keeping the RGBs and re-indexing (1 outer??) the rear. Don't want new tires (currently running all 165s). I want the stance even all the way around. Would this setup accomplish this and does anyone have any pics of this or something similar?
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cdennisg · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:41 am Post subject:

If you readjust the rear by re-indexing the spring plates far enough to match the 3 1/2"drop of the spindles, you will have a bunch of negative camber in the rear wheels. It has been done, but there are drawbacks.

Beetle tires (165's) are not stiff enough for a bus, lowered or stock.
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mandraks · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:40 am Post subject:

Dubskii · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:17 pm Post subject:

So school me for a bit. I am always trying to gain knowledge...I see quite a few of the tire specs in this thread are 165s. Are you saying none of these tires are stiff enough? BTW mine are 165/80/15.
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