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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:50 pm    Post subject: Westfalia MCode Question Reply with quote

If a vehicle has 523907 in the mcode for the paint code does that mean it is a S0XX camper? Or does it just mean it is a commercial bus by westfalia? If it is a camper where is the S0 code or where is it marked if at all? If not marked how do you figure out what SO it is?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds more like the VIN for an October 1959 bus than a paint code.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: from the technical area Reply with quote

1963-1967
Westfalia and Commercial Codes
The following codes are usually preceded by 523
where 5 = export model and 23 = Model (Kombi)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

please post your entire M-code plate (make the last 3 digits of the VIN xxx if you are shy)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: Westfalia MCode Question Reply with quote

Douglas711 wrote:
If a vehicle has 523907 in the mcode for the paint code does that mean it is a S0XX camper? Or does it just mean it is a commercial bus by westfalia? If it is a camper where is the S0 code or where is it marked if at all? If not marked how do you figure out what SO it is?

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As Clara said it'd help to see your whole M-plate

523907 would suggest to me pearl white westy

look on your M-plate for something that starts with a letter followed by two #s if it has D23, B35, A42, or something like that then look at this page
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/mcodest2.php
to see what westy you have.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:46 pm    Post subject: Kombi Reply with quote

Kombi

Yes I am familiar with the list you provided. From what I can tell it doesn't need to have SOxx to be a westy? If it doesn't have that code there how can you determine what Westy model it is?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the camper is a late 60s westy, one of the M codes is probably A42, B42, C42 or D42 and another one is 108.

The 108 code refers to the deletion of the side windows because they are replaced with louvered. The _42 code refers to the option package on your camper (if it is an SO-42, the most common late sixties westfalia camper).

The fact that you have the SK907 paint combination on the MCode plate would tend to suggest that the bus left the factory as a kombi intended for conversion by Westfalia, instead of another conversion company.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:20 pm    Post subject: paint Reply with quote

The mcdoe the bus has is for Westfalia or commercial use. Does it have to have a code to be a westfalia camper.

I found a pic in the gallery of a 67 camper with no such code. Nwo that is of course assuming it is a real westfalia camper

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There has been some discussion here in the past about non-M-coded Westies. They primarily seemed to be european delivery busses. I think most US-bound Westies had the M codes.

So what was your export code from the M plate?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't have an export code
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it does have the 430 mcode
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm. Puzzling. This question is out of my league!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: paint Reply with quote

Douglas711 wrote:
The mcdoe the bus has is for Westfalia or commercial use. Does it have to have a code to be a westfalia camper.

I found a pic in the gallery of a 67 camper with no such code. Nwo that is of course assuming it is a real westfalia camper

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That bus has the B42 Westy M code and the Tourist Delivery (UT) export code...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: school Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, it doesn't have to have the westy M-code to be a westy.
I had a '65 westy with no westy code.
I think it was brought over by a PO in the Air Force.

I kept an eye out, and it seems that there are a number of euro sold westies that tend to have these features:
no westy code
no port code (blank, not UT)
yes with NA specs
no louvered side windows (no M-code 108)
have steering/ig lock
more likely to be two tone
no electrical outlet (sometimes)
possibly have the 'early' tent mounts rather than the 'later' ones?

They also tend to have more interesting options.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: paint Reply with quote

///Mink wrote:
Douglas711 wrote:
Does it have to have a code to be a westfalia camper.
I found a pic in the gallery of a 67 camper with no such code. Nwo that is of course assuming it is a real westfalia camper

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That bus has the B42 Westy M code and the Tourist Delivery (UT) export code...

...and that one has M-code 108

here are some no westy code westy M-code tags:

'65 SO-42 w/ dormobile top:
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here is another:
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a good eye will spot the westy kit from the formica pattern:
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:45 am    Post subject: Thansk Reply with quote

Clara,

That is very helpful. I have sent you a pm. Why do you think they made Westfalias and didn't put the code on them? Do you think they might have needed more buses then they ordered and ordered them after the mcodes were stamped?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clara wrote:
no, it doesn't have to have the westy M-code to be a westy.
I had a '65 westy with no westy code.
I think it was brought over by a PO in the Air Force.

I kept an eye out, and it seems that there are a number of euro sold westies that tend to have these features:
no westy code
no port code (blank, not UT)
yes with NA specs
no louvered side windows (no M-code 108)
have steering/ig lock
more likely to be two tone
no electrical outlet (sometimes)
possibly have the 'early' tent mounts rather than the 'later' ones?

They also tend to have more interesting options.



agreed

my 64 westy (subhatch)

no westy code
no port of entry code
6 pop out code
steering/ignition lock
2 tone mouse grey/pearl white
no electrical hookups
I don't think it had a subhatch code
the bus had lots of cool oddities
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erik G wrote:
Clara wrote:
no, it doesn't have to have the westy M-code to be a westy.
I had a '65 westy with no westy code.
I think it was brought over by a PO in the Air Force.

I kept an eye out, and it seems that there are a number of euro sold westies that tend to have these features:
no westy code
no port code (blank, not UT)
yes with NA specs
no louvered side windows (no M-code 108)
have steering/ig lock
more likely to be two tone
no electrical outlet (sometimes)
possibly have the 'early' tent mounts rather than the 'later' ones?

They also tend to have more interesting options.



agreed

my 64 westy (subhatch)

no westy code
no port of entry code
6 pop out code
steering/ignition lock
2 tone mouse grey/pearl white
no electrical hookups
I don't think it had a subhatch code
the bus had lots of cool oddities


I've never seen a SO22, 33-35 with a electrical hook up. I think that was a So42-44 thing.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: paint Reply with quote

Clara wrote:


a good eye will spot the westy kit from the formica pattern:
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Mmmmm SO44...
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