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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:28 am    Post subject: Need quick advice about panhead replacement Reply with quote

I've got a question that I need answered quick fast

I've crashed my 69 fasty and bent the panhead, but the rest of the pan is in top notch condition.

I'm loooking at a 65 Notch that's got a late model pan but it's rusted as hell...

Can I take the pan head from the 65 notch and weld it onto the 69 frame ?

How hard is this?

I've tried searching but I haven't been successful with the search terms

I really appreciate a quick reply, as i'm about to back out of the deal if I can't get an appropriate answer

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it can be done. I've done it before (on my 71 Notch), and the big Blue Bentley even covers it. I think Russ has some links to the Bentley pages as well on his site.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was also wondering about straightening it from like, a frame shop...has that been done?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would guess that a Frame Shop would love the work.

P.S. I can cut/ship you a panhead if you don't want to cut up the '65.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bob, who is russ? I'm looking but I'm not sure who it is

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russ Wolfe
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

suruba wrote:
bob, who is russ? I'm looking but I'm not sure who it is

Dave


Like Mike said, Russ Wolfe. I did a quick look on his site, but couldn't find the pics he had scanned. I know they're there, as I've run across them before, but I can't remember where.
Take a look for yourself, maybe you can find it.
http://classicvw.org/gallery2/main.php
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave, glad you were not hurt, but put up some carnage pics.

Remember your wrecked pan is an auto, different than a manual... Not sure what you're planning with the Notch, but probably easier to get a manual pan. Or use the tunnel from the Notch and weld in the old Fasty's pan halves.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brent wrote:
Dave, glad you were not hurt, but put up some carnage pics.

Remember you're wrecked pan is an auto, different than a manual... Not sure what you're planning with the Notch, but probably easier to get a manual pan. Or use the tunnel from the Notch and weld in the old Fasty's pan halves.


Also, I should mention, that IF you're replacing the pan head, you'll NEED the body to be off the pan. This way, you can double check everything for being square. Here's a couple of pics of my pan head swap.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
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And a gratuitous used pan swap (same car) for reference. Wink
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One other thing, IF you decide to replace the entire rolling pan section (or middle pan and tunnel section), get a title with it, as you'll be changing VIN's, and California might not like you doing that. Shocked Some states are fussy about pan swaps. Just a heads up.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bret, Thanks for the kind words. As far as pictures go, I don't have many, only one actually, and I already took off a lot of the sheet metal that was removeable, and took a sawzall to the front clip to get the wiring harness and gas tank out and start deconstruction

i've got a title for the fastback that got wrecked, I was thinking of either using the pan halves from that or swapping the panhead from the notch onto the fasty pan, or getting the fasty panhead straightened and reinforced at a body shop

why is the auto pan so different? If i was to use the fasty pan I would keep it automatic, and I thought that the pans were exactly the same as far as bolt pattern, but I could be wrong. I know there are differences in the tunnels, but nothing I thought would interfere when swapping a body

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