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veskovici
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 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:22 pm Post subject: What is wrong with this 54 opps! 57 engine?? |
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What is missing and what is wrong?
thanks!!!
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Volkswagens swept the 1963 Tour D'Europe, a 9,320 mile reliability trial around the Mediterranean.
The 1500s took the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 7th places. The 1200s finished 2nd, 3rd, and 5th in their respective class
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billb
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missing:
air cleaner
distributer cap
coil
rotor
vacuum advance
spark plug wires
exhaust
incorrect:
voltage regulator
larger slot generator
pulleys
generator nut
I'm sure the experts will come and find a lot more and/or correct what I've listed. 
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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from the gallery
RareAir's 54 vert engine:
plus another scan:
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Chad M
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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This is the engine out of my Sept '54. I believe it is all original, right down to the filth! |
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veskovici
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject: engine |
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| Quote: | | The # appears to be mid 1957. |
So I thought also but what is :
1954
Jan .....8
Aug 703 464 1-850 932 A-300 548
525 127 718 544 730 645 629 679
Sep 722 716 1-870 071 A-319 985
528 571 737 728 749 938 648 061
Oct 742 329 1-897 572 A-339 982
532 178 757 434 768 021 666 144
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Okrasa-Oval
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Here is my late '54 block. It has the 1- then the #.
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veskovici
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: 54/57 engine |
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| Quote: | | Here is my late '54 block. It has the 1- then the #. |
Thank you! I am changing post title!
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RareAir
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Chad M wrote: |
This is the engine out of my Sept '54. I believe it is all original, right down to the filth! |
The air cleaner & oil filler aren't correct for a 1953-55 engine. Those parts belong on a 1956-60 36hp  |
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RareAir
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| billb wrote: | RareAir's 54 vert engine:
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That engine is in my '54 sunroof. My vert is a '56 model  |
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RareAir
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| billb wrote: | missing:
air cleaner
distributer cap
coil
rotor
vacuum advance
spark plug wires
exhaust
incorrect:
voltage regulator
larger slot generator
pulleys
generator nut |
Good stuff, but it seems the original post was changed to a 1957 engine, so all those incorrect parts you listed are now correct for a '57. But what about the floating carburetor  |
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Nie zu alt
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| RareAir wrote: |
incorrect:
voltage regulator
larger slot generator
pulleys
generator nut |
Good stuff, but it seems the original post was changed to a 1957 engine, so all those incorrect parts you listed are now correct for a '57.[/quote]
RareAir,
For a '57 - would the crankshaft pulley be the larger diameter, smooth faced version instead of the version shown in the first picture of this thread? Not trying to be critical, just learning.
Thanks
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Nie zu alt wrote: | RareAir,
For a '57 - would the crankshaft pulley be the larger diameter, smooth faced version instead of the version shown in the first picture of this thread? Not trying to be critical, just learning. |
All (25/36hp, 1200 & 1600) crank pulley's were the same diameter. The one shown below looks to be correct for a 1600cc engine
When you state "smooth face", I'm assuming without those starburst-like lines. |
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Nie zu alt
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the answer - the picture in your post shows the 1200 - 1600cc style pulley. Just trying to learn and source the correct parts for my '57 engine.
Actually, there is a difference in the pulley diameters. The 25?/36 h.p. version (left) is 7.2" in diameter and the 1200 - 1600 version (right) is 6.7" in diameter. Might be tough to see the 1/2" difference in the picture below, but it's there. Or do I have some odd-ball versions?
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tasb
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| You are correct the 36 hp crank pulley is slightly larger. The commonly available crank pulley removal assist tool will not work with the 36 hp pulleys. |
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RareAir
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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The pulley pictured on the Left is a 1956-later pulley. Pre '55 pulley's do not have that curved lip on the outside edge. |
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Nie zu alt
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Thanks for the reply. Looks like I have that part covered for my '57.
Next question - Fan Shroud: Would a correct '57 shroud have the recessed area in front of the air cleaner? When did that feature begin?
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joe h.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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I thought all '54's had the spring style oil fill?
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Nie zu alt
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: What is wrong with this 54 opps! 57 engine?? |
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Back to the original question - Those heater boxes look to be the '58 - '61 style. There is a good thread with pictures on correct heater boxes in the Split forum.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=223715&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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Chad M
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| joe h. wrote: | I thought all '54's had the spring style oil fill?
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Yeah, Glen pointed that out too. Now how is my oil filler attached to the stand? There isn't a nut inside like the newer style and there isn't a tapped hole on the boss below or the retaining tab for that matter. Is it just a friction fit?
edit: I went out and dug through the grime. The tab has been cut off, so I just it's just shoved into the hole, no wonder it was slobbering like a 9 month old! Anybody got the right filler and tab for this engine?
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