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thecanoeguy Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 2 Location: albury, australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: transaxle ID by numbers? |
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Hello , pulling up this old thread again, I have a split gearbox that is supposed to be from a wrecked oval ??????
it only seems to have the casing part number
113 301 102 A but i can't find a serial number anywhere , is this normal for the older boxes
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17285 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: transaxle ID by numbers? |
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Photo?
Is there anything stamped on the flat part above the starter?
If a customer had a damaged gearbox case, a new one from the parts dept would not have any numbers stamped into it. _________________
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evargas163 Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 9
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 11:39 am Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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Everyone,
I need your help identifying a swing axle. I bought a swing axle for my 63 Double Cab straight axle conversion.
As per the previous owner, the swing axle came out of 1968 type 3. It was still mounted on the suspension clip and it has 6 volt starter. The transaxle has the long axles and the wide 5 wheel pattern drums.
I need help trying to identify it and to determine the gear ratio. The part number on the starter side is 113 301 103. The serial number right below it is 538105.
Thanks for your help!
Manny |
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VolkFanJefe Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2015 Posts: 40 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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I could use some help trying to ID this trans.... It is in my oval, but I believe it may be out of a '67.
Thanks in advance..... |
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pitargue Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2006 Posts: 232
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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From my 64 notch. No letters on the numbers. Any help?
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SRoberts Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2019 Posts: 1 Location: IL
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:07 am Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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I have a vw trike im trying to figure out what tranny I have the serial number on it is 8591626 |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26310 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:22 am Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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Once the charts run out, I have posted (I thought it would have been in this thread but I it's too old for it) what one can pull out of VW's book Progressive Refinements.
Aug 01 1965 Chassis 116 000 001 Rear Axle 8185079
Sep 07 1965 Chassis 116 114 583 Rear Axle 8424250
Oct 29 1965 Chassis 116 298 201 Rear Axle 8567900
Jun 08 1966 Chassis 116 976 636 Rear Axle 9343990
Aug 24 1966 Chassis 117 097 951 Rear Axle 9488596
Sep 01 1966 Chassis 117 112 318 Rear Axle 9608293
Sep 02 1966 Chassis 117 114 847 Rear Axle 9618155
Nov 17 1966 Chassis 117 348 424 Rear Axle 9850687 (1300)
Your number looks to be in the 1300 era. Probably geared like on the left here:
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SparksLP Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2009 Posts: 213 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:53 am Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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I was thinking that this transmission was from a '61, but maybe it's something else? No letters in the number sequence, just the 4123595. Help?
_________________ Tom
1966 VW Beetle Sunroof Sedan |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26310 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:15 am Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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Just plain numbers were what they did back then, letters may be on the charts but not on the transaxles. _________________ Andy T.
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zwartePiets Samba Member
Joined: January 05, 2009 Posts: 58 Location: Austin Texas
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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I was told this was a type 3 trans. Looking to use in a short axle conversion if it is. Any help would be appreciated.
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113.301.103
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Stephen B Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2013 Posts: 53 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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A1520056
A1 = TRANNY TYPE
5 = ALWAYS FOLLOWED BY 5
20 = DAY PRODUCED
05 = MONTH PRODUCED (MAY)
6 = 1956 BASED ON TRANNY TYPE CODE (NOT 1966 AS THIS WOULD NOT BE AN A1 TRANNY
Thats how I was taught to interpret the early ovals, hope this helps |
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Cretodecristo Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2020 Posts: 56 Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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I am a bit confused. If the 3rd digit is always a “5,” why is mine “6”?
What does this mean? (I’m thinking it means this transaxle was not original to my 1967 sedan. _________________ Proud owner of a ‘67 sedan daily driver! |
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mukluk Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7023 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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Cretodecristo wrote: |
I am a bit confused. If the 3rd digit is always a “5,” why is mine “6”?
What does this mean? (I’m thinking it means this transaxle was not original to my 1967 sedan. |
It means the numbering convention mentioned by Stephen B doesn't apply to 1961 and newer transaxles at least. Your transaxle is most likely from a '68 based on the serial number. _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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viiking Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2013 Posts: 2667 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:01 am Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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My original been in the family since new Jan ‘68 has the transaxle number A046XXXX so your transmission is sometime after that.
Many of the lists of transaxles posted on here can be dubious, _________________ 1968 1500 RHD Lotus White Beetle since birth. In the hospital for major surgery
1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3 |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17285 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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Stephen B wrote: |
A1520056
A1 = TRANNY TYPE
5 = ALWAYS FOLLOWED BY 5
20 = DAY PRODUCED
05 = MONTH PRODUCED (MAY)
6 = 1956 BASED ON TRANNY TYPE CODE (NOT 1966 AS THIS WOULD NOT BE AN A1 TRANNY
Thats how I was taught to interpret the early ovals, hope this helps |
This is wrong. Prior to Nov 72, the trans number was just a sequential serial number. Some letter codes were used starting in 69.
After Nov 72, the trans code is two letters followed by the date of manufacture, eg. AT dd mm y _________________
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17285 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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Here's an example of the sequential serial number of 60s gearboxes. This first one is from mid 67. The serial number was at 9.9 million here.
Then, several months later, the serial number rolled over 10 million. But VW did not stamp the "1" at the beginning of the serial number, that's why this 68 trans has a zero at the beginning.
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viiking Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2013 Posts: 2667 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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Makes sense and confirms what I said about my '68 a few posts before. _________________ 1968 1500 RHD Lotus White Beetle since birth. In the hospital for major surgery
1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3 |
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tcsracing1 Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2016 Posts: 5 Location: North America
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:32 am Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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Anybody know what this transmission would be dated?
A 950408 |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17285 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:47 am Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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Did you look at the list of trans numbers in the link in the second post of this topic?
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2207973#2207973 _________________
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GeoJack Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Transaxle ID by numbers? |
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Bruce, been scanning this forum and you seem to have a good idea of YM on tyrannies.
Having difficulty fitting '68 brake cylinders to my 68 baja and suspect I don't have a 68 tranny or at least not 68 backing plates.
Serial No. 1174007
any help would be appreciated so I can get my wheels back on the ground. |
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