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vw113
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 Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: Lowlight headlights? |
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Hi
How can I see the difference on the headlights for a lowlight Karmann Ghia and a later Karmann Ghia?
I have a pair that have painted headlight rings and the rings are more flat then on a bug. I have seen some Karmann Ghia´s with chrome rings that are more like the ones on a bug.
Please could anyone tell me the difference and what year they changed the headlights, if it wasn´t at the same time the lowlight production ended.
Also if you can show my a picture of the two style headlights.
Thanks.
Regards Steven. |
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Rollo Tomasi
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I dont know if this helps you but here it goes, My 58 cabriolet headlights lenses are stamped VW on the bottom and hella on top, they have a big V embosed on the lens, the ring bezels are not painted are chromed this are wider compared to the later style and stamped hella on top. and hella ink stamped on the inside.
I can take pictures for you .
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GHIA
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For the low light
For the headlight I do not know. But for the headlight rings they have a dimple on the top, and the logo hella on the top, and they are marked “made in germany” on bottom. The rings haven't a rolled in lip.
On my 61.
A dimple on the top, and the logo hella on the top is different and they are marked “made in germany” on bottom. The rings haven't a rolled in lip.
year ??????
No dimple on the top, logo hella on the top, not marked “made in germany”.The rings have a rolled in lip.
Year ?????? but I think after year 64
No dimple on the top, not logo hella on the top, not marked “made in germany”.The rings have a rolled in lip.But they are marked Hella inside with ink black or blue
Sorry for my bad english |
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Broadacus
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A pair of NOS Lowlight Headlamps. 
Original Markings at the bottom of the lens.
Original markings at the top of the lens.
Rear of the headlamps
NOS Lowlight Headlamps.  |
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Wiggy
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A pair of NOS Lowlight Headlamps.
Original Markings at the bottom of the lens.
Original markings at the top of the lens.
Rear of the headlamps
NOS Lowlight Headlamps. |
Those are sweet!
How hard is it to find the correct lenses?
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Rollo Tomasi
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| Mine are just like those , and they have the same codes and a VW on the bottom, I have an extra complete headlight. |
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how much is a complete headlight set gonna cost a guy
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Rollo Tomasi
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No idea , I hate to set prices. this is my spare unit. but I am thinking to sell the car . so maybe for sale. I would preffer to trade (356 pre-a stuff)
I am restoring a 1953 Pre-a cabrio. |
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Rollo Tomasi
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| I think the 58- 59 american model came with bumper overriders, sealed beam headlights, all red tailights and clear turn singnals. But maybe someone knows better. |
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RockStock
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| Would later lowlights (58-59) have sealed beam units? |
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| I think the 58- 59 american model came with bumper overriders, sealed beam headlights, all red tailights and clear turn singnals. But maybe someone knows better. |
yes, for US, sealed beam. with the thin chrome rim.
to use the 'V' lenses (euro), you need the euro fat chrome rim/unit.
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| I have a pair that have painted headlight rings and the rings are more flat then on a bug. I have seen some Karmann Ghia´s with chrome rings that are more like the ones on a bug |
i wonder if your painted ones dont have the chrome rim fitted...ie it fits over the top of this painted rim.
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Broadacus
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| how much is a complete headlight set gonna cost a guy |
I think the problem would be finding a pair of NOS Lowlight headlamps. I import these from New Zealand into the UK. I have seen the odd headlamp at European meetings but they are not cheap.
Even the chrome rings, with the Hella markings are hard to find. |
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| I have a pair that have painted headlight rings and the rings are more flat then on a bug. I have seen some Karmann Ghia´s with chrome rings that are more like the ones on a bug |
i wonder if your painted ones dont have the chrome rim fitted...ie it fits over the top of this painted rim. |
without chrome rim fitted
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1737835
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What is the number on the lenses without the VW logo?
I have seen three different versions of the V type lenses.
Nr 1-71554 only Hella logo on the bottom
Nr ?????? with the Hella logo "A" (circled), and "NL" circled
Nr 3-68075 with the "A" (circled), VW sign, and "NL" circled
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You're looking at $200+ for the correct parts.
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vw113
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| vw113 wrote: |
| I have a pair that have painted headlight rings and the rings are more flat then on a bug. I have seen some Karmann Ghia´s with chrome rings that are more like the ones on a bug |
i wonder if your painted ones dont have the chrome rim fitted...ie it fits over the top of this painted rim. |
without chrome rim fitted
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1737835 |
Hi
Yes ,it´s how mine looks like, but I think the lense is a little bit different.
Regards Steven. |
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Rollo Tomasi
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| Anybody knows what the (A) or the (NL) stands for? |
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thom
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I found a set of NOS lenses a while back, but I haven't been able to find the other bits.
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| RockStock wrote: |
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| vw113 wrote: |
| I have a pair that have painted headlight rings and the rings are more flat then on a bug. I have seen some Karmann Ghia´s with chrome rings that are more like the ones on a bug |
i wonder if your painted ones dont have the chrome rim fitted...ie it fits over the top of this painted rim. |
without chrome rim fitted
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1737835 |
Hi
Yes ,it´s how mine looks like, but I think the lense is a little bit different.
Regards Steven. |
can someone tell me which size rings i need for these types of headlights as i have the type that the chrome rim goes over the top of.......i have a set of narrow rings that dont quite cover the painted bit..... |
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