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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:52 pm    Post subject: Hp question Reply with quote

Probably a unanswerable question but maybe a estimate by u professional. Here it goes how much hp est. of coarse would my engine make specs r
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042 heads 53 cc 40x35.5
Ported and polished
8 dowell counter weighted crank
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Dual 44 webers/ 7 in intakes
Any thought or ideas/ estimates would b greatly appreciated. I can tell u it will spin 7500 to 8 all day long clean unless u guys say not to Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say not. Maybe 7200 if the heads are done right.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say not, too. I don't think anyone could build it to take that abuse.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it will depend on the heads and exhaust , ported and polished ?? anyone can port and polish but who's doing them ?? and 8,000 all day ??? I laugh just writing it ..
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I need to curve my driving habits. The guy that built races a karmin Gia around here by the name of Twigg I don't know that's why I'm asking. It was built in1988 according to receipt I found. Oh well any estimates on hp. I know sounds crazy to me too. I feel even crazier telling it to u guys makes me look like a real work of art on the other hand after contacting builder he says not on heard of. Guess that's why I'm asking oppions
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the dyno. On my Stuska you will probably see 130-150
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Depends on the dyno. On my Stuska you will probably see 130-150

Take it to OC and it will make 150-180 Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The FK-8 stops making power around 6500 RPM's. If your spinning 8000 RPM's you tach is wrong.

125-135 HP
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The FK-8 stops making power around 6500 RPM's. If your spinning 8000 RPM's you tach is wrong.

125-135 HP


Yep.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vwracerdave wrote:
The FK-8 stops making power around 6500 RPM's. If your spinning 8000 RPM's you tach is wrong.

125-135 HP


Stops making power at 6500 but will still spin higher
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
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Depends on the dyno. On my Stuska you will probably see 130-150

Take it to OC and it will make 150-180 Wink


We used to call that the "Orange county correction factor"
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the input u guys r a great help. I did do research on cam and found same specs that's what made me seek professional knowledge being I'm new to vws I'm trying to figure out my best shift points for performance also wasn't sure if other specs heads exhaust and so on could alter the cam rpm range. I don't want to sound dumb just trying to gain knowledge and learn a new breed Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vwracerdave wrote:
The FK-8 stops making power around 6500 RPM's. If your spinning 8000 RPM's you tach is wrong.

125-135 HP
thats dependent on a lot of things.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short strokes will rev higher.

I'd limit it at 7k tho. Shifting at 8k the vw engine lives short life. Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heads can't flow enough with the lift that an FK8 with 1.4 lifts to. With 42 or 44x37 heads, and more compression, 170 HP would be reachable. Seen it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cam won't magically limit your rpm to any number, and in fact it is not uncommon for your shift point to be well above your peak HP in a well built engine - the trick is to change when the torque drops off an equivalent amount to what it will be at the rear in the next gear. Your engine characteristics, including the rpm peak HP is made, depend on a number of factors other than your cam though the biggest influence is the heads. If it was built to handle 8000rpm it is safe to take it there, but higher rpm always equate to shorter engine life.

I think you should invest in a dyno run, not so much for the bragging rights but to determine your best shift points.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That makes sense I'm going to try to find a local Dyno and actually test all this knowledge to find peak performance it's great to be able to talk to experienced people on these motors and get a understanding of these questions thanks a lot guys
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bugguy1967 wrote:
Heads can't flow enough with the lift that an FK8 with 1.4 lifts to. With 42 or 44x37 heads, and more compression, 170 HP would be reachable. Seen it.


A 1915 with 44's making 170? not unless it is over 13:1 and has more cam in it.What part of LA are you in? Close to orange county?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What octane gas would u guys recommend I've ran 93 but also 100. On a side nite u guys ever try or think of high compression and e85?
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