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vdub66gone
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I know its not a split, or an oval but while taking the body off a friends 58 this morning i noticed this and took a pic after reading this thread the other day.
he doesnt have the birth certificate but i think the car was built in april
"55"?
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kdf38
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: I Have a theory |
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We need more info from people who have birth certificates for their cars and the number(s) their cars have stamped ....
| [email protected] wrote: | These numbers are usually found by the passenger side inspection cover.
My car has a 77 there and I believe is was built on a Sunday.
| [email protected] wrote: | Anyone who has a Birth Certificate or knows the date their car was built, try checking if it matches the day of the week the car was built. using these. If you have
a 99 use 66. If you have 88, well, my theory does not work. It could be the day the body shell was completed also.
Mon =1 ... Tue = 2 ... Wed =3 ... Thur =4 ... Fri = 5 ... Sat = 6 ... Sun = 7
| 52HoffmanSplit wrote: | | johnshenry wrote: | My '51 has a "66" over the right side inspection cover (left side as you are facing the front end).
Never noticed those before, wonder what they are? |
I see a pattern here..  My '52 has a 33 stamped there.... Johnhenry's has a 66 and IN2VWS has a 99. Way TOO much of a coincidence... Perhaps its the shift number that built them..... shift 1, 2, 3....? or the stamping press number..... ?? Hmmmm The mystery continues. |
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kdf38
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: I Have a theory |
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Someone with access to the factory people or older workers could check with them to see if they recall what the numbers mean.
| [email protected] wrote: | We need more info from people who have birth certificates for their cars and the number(s) their cars have stamped ....
| [email protected] wrote: | These numbers are usually found by the passenger side inspection cover.
My car has a 77 there and I believe is was built on a Sunday.
Mon =1 ... Tue = 2 ... Wed =3 ... Thur =4 ... Fri = 5 ... Sat = 6 ... Sun = 7
| 52HoffmanSplit wrote: | | johnshenry wrote: | My '51 has a "66" over the right side inspection cover (left side as you are facing the front end).
Never noticed those before, wonder what they are? |
I see a pattern here.. My '52 has a 33 stamped there.... Johnhenry's has a 66 and IN2VWS has a 99. Way TOO much of a coincidence... Perhaps its the shift number that built them..... shift 1, 2, 3....? or the stamping press number..... ?? Hmmmm The mystery continues. |
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Agave58
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| Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Here is a "55" stamp on my Jan 30th 1958. The 30th was a Thursday, not sure if VW started the work week on a Sunday, if so Thursday is the 5th day? There is also the letter "B" to the left of the 55?
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splitjunkie
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I wonder if the numbers had to do with which body welding jig the body was put together on?
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Agave58
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I have started a list of the Splits/Ovals/post 57's, to try and find a correlation on the Stamp#'s?
"Owner"/ "Year"/ "Build Date"/ "Color"/ "Stamp #" /** Non USA
33Woodie / 1950 / Oct 50 / L-11 Pastel Green / "11"
Johnshenry / 1950 / Nov 50 /L-51 Bordeaux Red/ "55"
Eng3 / 1950 / ? / ? / "5"
In2VWS / 1951 /April /L-41 Black / "22" **
Johnshenry/1951/ June 51 / L21 Grey/ "66"
Dennis74 / 1951 / 16 October / Chestnut Brown / "4" **
Virtanen / 1952 / Jan 52 / L-36 Azure Blue / "66"
Virtanen / 1952 / June 52 / Pastel Green / "22"
Icannon / 1952 / June 52 / ? / "55"
Sepi / 1952 / June 52 / ? / "6"
Eurodub / 1952/ June 52 / L-90 sand / "6"
52Hoffman/1952/ July 52/ L-11 Pastel Green/ "33"
73Sports / 1952 / Oct 52 /L-36 Azure Blue / "77"
53 0val/1953/ October '53/L19 Atlantic Green/"00"
Joe H /1954 / Jan 54 /L-41 Black / "0"
Onebadbug/1957/Oct56/L-324 Polar Silver/ "B" & "44" **
volksboy60/1957/ Oct 56/L-324 Polar silver/"H"
Black58EuroBug/1958/Sept 57/L-41 Black/ "9" **
Ladybug89 / 1958 / Nov 57 /L-334 Glacier Blue / "55"
Unknown / 1958 / Dec 57 / ? / "55"
Agave / 1958 / Jan 58 /L-240 Agave / "55"
Bayarea650 / 1958 / March 58 / ? / "4"
JDGas / 1958 / June 58 / ? / "77" & "C"
Staleair /1958/July 58 /L-245 Light Bronze / "G & O"
Spectre6000 /1959/Sept 58/L-358 Garnet Red/ "66" **
Steve8/1959/ Oct 58/ ?/ "6" & "88" **
Mario0609/1958/ Nov 58/L-41 Black/"77" & "7" **
Sleepyweisel/1959/Oct 59/L-41 Black/"77"
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johnshenry
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Johnshenry November 1950 "55"
Johnshenry June 1951 (I think) "66"
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joe h.
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Production date: January 7th, 1954
Color: black
Stamp # 0
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Agave58
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| johnshenry wrote: | Johnshenry November 1950 "55"
Johnshenry June 1951 (I think) "66" |
I added the build dates, what about colors?
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johnshenry
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| Agave wrote: | | johnshenry wrote: | Johnshenry November 1950 "55"
Johnshenry June 1951 (I think) "66" |
I added the build dates, what about colors? |
Johnshenry November 1950 "55" L51 Bordeaux Red
Johnshenry June 1951 (I think) "66" L21 Grey
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IN2VWS
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Mine - April 1951, Black
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eurodub
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27 June 52, L90 sand, "6"
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Agave58
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| eurodub wrote: | | 27 June 52, L90 sand, "6" |
I added your info, I hope more owners pop in to offer the birthdates and colors... 
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52HoffmanSplit 
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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"Owner"/ "Year"/ "Build Date"/ "Color"/ "Stamp #"
52HoffmanSplit / 1952 / July 3 1952 / Pastel Green / 33
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Agave58
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| 52HoffmanSplit wrote: | "Owner"/ "Year"/ "Build Date"/ "Color"/ "Stamp #"
52HoffmanSplit / 1952 / July 3 1952 / Pastel Green / 33 |
I added it on, I had you listed and forgot to add it... 
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| Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| Agave wrote: | Mario 0609 VW is not a export but a domestic. Mario also feels that his Nov 58 is still a 58? Notice that his stampings are on the drivers side, I don't know if this is for the German market only??
| mario_0609 wrote: | So here's my stamping.... So I am positive that this is a 77 and an upside down 7 (not an L)
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I noticed that several domestic deliveries do not have a body number stamped. Grailoc has an all original TD 56 vert, I also have a 56 vert with no body number and no holes for the "made in western germany" tag. I will check the stampings later on.
Is the no body number thing a domestic delivery only? |
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53 0val
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My stamp looks like two upside down Js, but more like incomplete 00s... Definitely not 77 or 99
53 0val/1953/10 October '53/L19 Atlantic Green/00?
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Agave58
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| 53 0val wrote: | My stamp looks like two upside down Js, but more like incomplete 00s... Definitely not 77 or 99
53 0val/1953/10 October '53/L19 Atlantic Green/00? |
Does it look similar to "in2vws" stampings?
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| Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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just checked my car, no stampings at all.
Are any of the cars here with stamps a kabrio? |
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