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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a sweet ANIMAL! Exclamation
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome lams116!
What a nice car and paint, looks like new!


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:08 pm    Post subject: now I have one! Reply with quote

Found this little car in sweden and brought it back to his birthplace in the Wolfsburg area in Lower saxony/ Germany.

It is the VW 411 without "L" version, they did not sold to the US, I think. No "L" means e.g. less chrome, no carpet on the floor, no rubber on the bumpers, no parking lights, no clock.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The stripped down versions are known as A or N Models & are especially rare!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must be the same car:

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These basic models were much more common here in Finland than the more luxurious L-versions. These are certainly rare in the US, but not so much in the Europe.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Lahti411,

yes it is Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: now I have one! Reply with quote

kgarchivinusa wrote:
Found this little car in sweden and brought it back to his birthplace in the Wolfsburg area in Lower saxony/ Germany.

It is the VW 411 without "L" version, they did not sold to the US, I think. No "L" means e.g. less chrome, no carpet on the floor, no rubber on the bumpers, no parking lights, no clock.

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Sometimes utter simplicity allows the elegance of the original design to shine through.

Beautiful! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject: Got my birth certificate today. Reply with quote

My car was built on 26.September.1968

Maybe the oldest existing on planet earth Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Got my birth certificate today. Reply with quote

kgarchivinusa wrote:
My car was built on 26.September.1968

Maybe the oldest existing on planet earth Very Happy


How low is the VIN (Fahrgestellnummer)?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is nice! Your car might might wery well be one of the earliest remaining and it is also in traffic and in this excellent condition.
Feels good to know it is in safe hands!
Congratulations!

/Lars S
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Got my birth certificate today. Reply with quote

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How low is the VIN (Fahrgestellnummer)?


it is 42900 5651

thanks Lars.
The previous owner in sweden kept it in this condition. Thanks to him. The car was from 1976 to last week the family car stored in a heated garage.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exellent buy Lutz. Cool
Many nice Kilometers with the car.

Although your car is standard, it has a typical Scandinavian accesoire.
The floormatt 's are coming from Finland and are specialy made for Snow and Mud (you don't seen them very often).
But you are driving now this car only in the Summer to keep it in his good condition:?:

Ton
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:00 am    Post subject: switched to summer operation only Reply with quote

Hi Ton,

nice to hear, that the floormats are also a type 4 accessoire part.

Yes, from now on the car is only a summer driver.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a paper which comes with the Floormatt's, but I coudn't find it. My documentry is too big. Wink

Wenn I see it I will scan it.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's mine:

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74 412 variant, manual and has a 1700 W engine with 1800 WORN OUT solex 36/40 cars.. uses about as much fuel as brake fluid (the master is leaking constantly)

plans are to make this a daily driver, so im about to overhaul som 32/34 (1700) carbs so that the fuel consumption can be normal again (for the record: the gas costs aprox $10 pr gallon here in norway!)
i will also get a eber installed and get the heating system up and go, and ofcource fix the brakes Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice car Tistlo!

It seems to have the 4 spoke rims that came with the Superbeetles during '73-74, did these rims ever come with the 412?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes it have those superbeetle wheels. i doubt that they are original for the 412, anyway I have a set of KPZ wheels I plan to fit the 412, but that will be for the summertires:)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:44 pm    Post subject: 1972 411 Variant Reply with quote

Just got last week sold in el cajon ca, san diego new to Arley Ebert now mine..LOWERING iit right now..Had KYBs part #KC 4017 I cant find them no ware even KYB web??But found Bilistin for audi 4000 .I work at A VW parts store VEE PARTS san diego so Im going to look at our old stock of shocks let you know wat I find.Red all the post on lowering this car thank for all the info ... Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 10:31 am    Post subject: Re: Got my birth certificate today. Reply with quote

kgarchivinusa wrote:
My car was built on 26.September.1968

Maybe the oldest existing on planet earth Very Happy


Do you know if it was sold new in Sweden?

First registration in Sweden was October 31 1969.

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:04 am    Post subject: Re: Got my birth certificate today. Reply with quote

Pelle wrote:

Do you know if it was sold new in Sweden?

First registration in Sweden was October 31 1969.


Yes, you are right. Same I can found in the original Service pamphlet

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Birth datas from the Wolfsburg museum are:

built at: 26.09.68
sold at: 07.10.68
registrated at: 31.10.68
An: SN Schweden-Nord

This fits to the stored datas in the VW records

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the engine number in the Service pamphlet don't fit with the engine number the VW museum has in its records for my car.

The engine was made between May and June 1969

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The engine is still in the car. This is the strange thing I don't know about the car.
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1968 sunroof bug savannah beige
1968 VW 411 4-door royal red
1968 VW 411 L 4-door cobaltblue
1988 Porsche 924S Targa alpinweiss

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