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splitpartsunlimited Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2006 Posts: 1251 Location: Good Ol`Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:19 am Post subject: Battery sticker on Split batteries |
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just ending the restoration of my car and i wonder if split era batteries ever came with any kind of manufacturer's sticker (bosch , varta , etc ) that could be seen whith the battery and the rear seat in place ......
this could be a nice touch ....
also , any pics of the front side carpets installed ?? i need to know if the carpet covers part of the crotch cooler`s inner cover ....
thank you !!!!
Ricardo _________________ in my Garage:
1951 crotch cooler split
1971 1302 cabriolet
1981 Mercedes Benz 230 military "Gelandewagen"
2010 Mercedes Benz c200 kompressor touring |
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IN2VWS Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2006 Posts: 2521 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Don't know about the batteries Ricardo, but here is a pic of the carpet.
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splitpartsunlimited Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2006 Posts: 1251 Location: Good Ol`Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:22 am Post subject: |
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thank you so much for the carpet pic , but i have the other type of crotch cooler`s cover ....the one that deflects the air towards the firewall and has articulated crotch cooler arms ...
shape of the carpet is also different ....
Ricardo _________________ in my Garage:
1951 crotch cooler split
1971 1302 cabriolet
1981 Mercedes Benz 230 military "Gelandewagen"
2010 Mercedes Benz c200 kompressor touring |
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Brezelwerks Samba Member
Joined: March 17, 2003 Posts: 1421 Location: Tyngsboro, MA
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:24 am Post subject: |
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I'm also making a battery sticker for my 50 shortly also, it is a nice touch.
Wolfsburg Warehouse (Bill Diereckx sp?) currently sells one style of the red/yellow text Bosch sticker for $4 or $5 each I think, has the early script Bosch letttering, but the resolution quality is lousy. There is also a later (but not sure when the text changed) block letter Bosch text sticker badge. I've only seen original block letter version on original batteries on splits for some reason.
Originally the stickers were not just stickers though, they were affixed to thin metal backing plates with a turned rounded edge, similar to a jacket button pin actually but flatter. I've also seen the Varta badge/sticker but have never seen that one on a car or how it was made. The difficulty in putting just a sticker on alot of 6V batteries today is that the sides and front of batteries are molded with a fluted or lightly corrugated surface pattern, making it hard to affix just a sticker and have it look right. So you also need the original metal plate as well not to just make it look correct but fit nice, which you can cut out of perhaps a thin sheet of aluminum.
I'm making a few for myself which I simply print on a photo quality inkjet printer on gloss coated sticker paper and then spray with clear fixative, no silkscreener needed and the resolution is perfect. Then will cut out the backing plate on the circle cutter here and apply some adhesive to the back of the plate. I need to find a way to post up a vectorized art file of the sticker so folks could print their own if interested, sometime maybe this fall.
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splitpartsunlimited Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2006 Posts: 1251 Location: Good Ol`Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:29 am Post subject: |
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good morning !! it seems that you wake up early in the morning !!
even sats!!!
could you send me a pic of what you did so i can understand what you`re talking about ??
i can make the decals with the alum backing plate ...
Ricardo _________________ in my Garage:
1951 crotch cooler split
1971 1302 cabriolet
1981 Mercedes Benz 230 military "Gelandewagen"
2010 Mercedes Benz c200 kompressor touring |
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Brezelwerks Samba Member
Joined: March 17, 2003 Posts: 1421 Location: Tyngsboro, MA
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:46 am Post subject: |
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Libreriajenny wrote: |
good morning !! it seems that you wake up early in the morning !!
even sats!!!
could you send me a pic of what you did so i can understand what you`re talking about ??
i can make the decals with the alum backing plate ...
Ricardo |
Yes, early mornings daily when you have a dog to walk....
Here is the ad Bill has posted actually here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=464436
Here is photo from BC showing the carpets around the crotch coolers too:
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coad Samba Scapegoat
Joined: September 12, 2002 Posts: 7552
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Brezelwerks wrote: |
The difficulty in putting just a sticker on alot of 6V batteries today is that the sides and front of batteries are molded with a fluted or lightly corrugated surface pattern, making it hard to affix just a sticker and have it look right. |
The battery Wolfsburg West sells has the round flat circle on the front of the case like the original Bosch batteries had. No Bosch decal, but the place is there to put one.
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splitpartsunlimited Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2006 Posts: 1251 Location: Good Ol`Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: |
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thank you gary !!
now the million bucks question .....how about the sticker diameter ??
was that one originally backed up by an aluminum plate ??
regarding the carpet pic , that one belongs to a cabrio ....mine is not that tall and does not surround the cc cover ...
Ricardo _________________ in my Garage:
1951 crotch cooler split
1971 1302 cabriolet
1981 Mercedes Benz 230 military "Gelandewagen"
2010 Mercedes Benz c200 kompressor touring |
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Brezelwerks Samba Member
Joined: March 17, 2003 Posts: 1421 Location: Tyngsboro, MA
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Libreriajenny wrote: |
thank you gary !!
now the million bucks question .....how about the sticker diameter ??
was that one originally backed up by an aluminum plate ??
regarding the carpet pic , that one belongs to a cabrio ....mine is not that tall and does not surround the cc cover ...
Ricardo |
94mm, based on my original here. I'll waive the paypal fee for the million..... |
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splitjunkie Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2006 Posts: 4094
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:11 am Post subject: |
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IN2VWS wrote: |
Don't know about the batteries Ricardo, but here is a pic of the carpet.
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my oct 51 has the covers and the carpet is like this picture. _________________ Chris
You know, a lot of these scratches will buff right out... Jerry Seinfeld |
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2002 Posts: 1243
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: |
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I have a old bosch battery pulled form a long sitting split.
The bosch label is molded in to the case in red and yellow. It's a very cool looking battetry with this logo on it.
I wonder what year battery I have? |
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Wiggy Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2003 Posts: 6601 Location: Downingtown, PA
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: |
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splitjunkie wrote: |
IN2VWS wrote: |
Don't know about the batteries Ricardo, but here is a pic of the carpet.
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my oct 51 has the covers and the carpet is like this picture. |
My May 52 split had the same and the carpet was original. _________________ Kevin "Wiggy"
My 58 Ghia Vert
My 51 Split 11G
My 57 Deluxe
My 56 Oval |
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: |
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The batteries used, like many items, are DIN standard. Lots of manufacturers make batteries to the norm. Not only Bosch. That circle is a standard, too. All batteries in the family have it.
In my case my car came with a Hagen brand battery. Through research and using my German skills I was able to get an idea of what my sticker should look like.
Some car makers list the battery brand on the build sheet. There also came warranty info and/or card with your car or attached to the battery.
This is a subject much discussed for cars where you see the battery easily when say the hood is open. |
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Fred Udog Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2004 Posts: 372
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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mine
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Anchovy Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2000 Posts: 2922 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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I started a related thread in the barndoor forum. I am looking to replicate the Varta battery that came with my '54 bus. The thread is here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=257768
All the old batteries from the 50's that I have seen did not have stickers on them. They were adorned with 3 dimensional hard plastic / rubber labels affixed to the side of the battery. Here are two examples of training school batteries I got in Germany:
For my bus I am trying to identify the correct battery cover as well. From the ads running here on the samba and referencing the owners manual for my bus, it looks to be the same cover as split beetle. Notice that the cover has 3 slots. Are all three slots used on a split beetle? Any information on the cover type is appreciated. Can you guys share images of your original split battery covers and let me know if you think the "bus" cover shown below is the same. Thanks!
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Anchovy Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2000 Posts: 2922 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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r39o wrote: |
....In my case my car came with a Hagen brand battery. Through research and using my German skills I was able to get an idea of what my sticker should look like.... |
I have an old Hagen cutaway battery and some Hagen porcelain signs. I would be interested to see what you came up with. |
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Anchovy Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2000 Posts: 2922 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Here is the Wilhelm Hagen battery sign:
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virtanen Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2006 Posts: 1461 Location: Finland
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Anchovy Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2000 Posts: 2922 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reply.
The one in the ad looks newer with the tabs holding the insulation in place versus rivets like in the owners manual illustration. Do you know when the change was made away from rivets? |
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VWwerks Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 207 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Here's a sticker:
(#130164474938) on ebay. |
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