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johnshenry 
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| Once again you guys live up to your reputation. Knock down a good man's hard work. Of course I would expect nothing less of you guy's by now though. Nick is the type of guy that would help you out in a heartbeat and he provides info for all to see on his website. I have been on the Samba for a while now. I now see why I am canceling my membership and continuing to go to Volksrods.com. Even there when there is a disagreement we are still like family |
Lighten up and grow a sense of humor why don't you? Or at least a sense of perspective.
You're dying on a very small cross for nothing with a speech like that. The comments come with the territory when you build something as radical as that, and it's all in good fun-- I'm sure Nick knows that and even expects it. |
Well then why don't you guys take a little of your own advice and lighten up and grow a sense of humor and perspective before you start knocking someones project? It is always the people that are defending the cars worth that get told to settle down, but yet we wouldn't be put on the defensive if the uninformed childish comments were not made in the first place. Those comments if anywhere belong in the rants section, not this one.
If some of these guys would think a little before they post instead of trying to be a part of "The VW Style Police" we wouldn't have to have discussions like this. |
I'll admit my initial comment was probably not the best. The car is definately not my style, and quite frankly a bit shocking to me at first glance. But I'm sure the owner put a lot of hard work into it and did his best. My apologies to Nick.
I called it a Rat Rod because it had a bit of a "rough" look to it, a bit lumpy and bumpy, and with flat paint. Not because it had no fenders.
And I will give him big points for a really unique look. I get so tired of people "ohhing, and ahhing" over lower Beetles all on the same damn sets of wheels. After a while they all look the same to me. Maybe not may taste, but this car does make a big statement and stand on its own....
But to be fair, I'm sure there is some kind of plywood and duct tape abortion that would cause each of you would upchuck a little yourselves... and it too was one persons "Dream"....
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52HoffmanSplit
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| You slip that picture into the middle of a thread about VW Prototypes and, yeah, it's gonna get some funny looks-- it's like seeing a whore in church. |
AMEN ..... in keeping with the church themed comment.
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| coad wrote: |
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| Once again you guys live up to your reputation. Knock down a good man's hard work. Of course I would expect nothing less of you guy's by now though. Nick is the type of guy that would help you out in a heartbeat and he provides info for all to see on his website. I have been on the Samba for a while now. I now see why I am canceling my membership and continuing to go to Volksrods.com. Even there when there is a disagreement we are still like family |
Lighten up and grow a sense of humor why don't you? Or at least a sense of perspective.
You're dying on a very small cross for nothing with a speech like that. The comments come with the territory when you build something as radical as that, and it's all in good fun-- I'm sure Nick knows that and even expects it. |
Well then why don't you guys take a little of your own advice and lighten up and grow a sense of humor and perspective before you start knocking someones project? It is always the people that are defending the cars worth that get told to settle down, but yet we wouldn't be put on the defensive if the uninformed childish comments were not made in the first place. Those comments if anywhere belong in the rants section, not this one.
If some of these guys would think a little before they post instead of trying to be a part of "The VW Style Police" we wouldn't have to have discussions like this. |
I'll admit my initial comment was probably not the best. The car is definately not my style, and quite frankly a bit shocking to me at first glance. But I'm sure the owner put a lot of hard work into it and did his best. My apologies to Nick.
I called it a Rat Rod because it had a bit of a "rough" look to it, a bit lumpy and bumpy, and with flat paint. Not because it had no fenders.
And I will give him big points for a really unique look. I get so tired of people "ohhing, and ahhing" over lower Beetles all on the same damn sets of wheels. After a while they all look the same to me. Maybe not may taste, but this car does make a big statement and stand on its own....
But to be fair, I'm sure there is some kind of plywood and duct tape abortion that would cause each of you would upchuck a little yourselves... and it too was one persons "Dream".... |
It cracks me up that some people here on the Samba get the reputation of being overly opinionated. Many people post pictures of their pride and joy and ASK "what do you think"? They then get their feelings hurt if people express their opinion. Yes, we should not be a dick about our opinions but don't get pissed if someone states they prefer VW's stock, lowered, slammed, etc.
The other issue is correctness of a car and it's parts. Again, YES, there are "stock Nazi's" here and if you ask be prepared and except what's wrong with your car correctness. Don't even think to post a car for sale and LIE about how correct it is. I absolutely love when these cars are picked apart because the person lying about it deserves it.
I think a lot of people appreciate people pointing out things TO HELP them and their car.
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johnshenry
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Location: Northwood, NH USA
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| coad wrote: |
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| Once again you guys live up to your reputation. Knock down a good man's hard work. Of course I would expect nothing less of you guy's by now though. Nick is the type of guy that would help you out in a heartbeat and he provides info for all to see on his website. I have been on the Samba for a while now. I now see why I am canceling my membership and continuing to go to Volksrods.com. Even there when there is a disagreement we are still like family |
Lighten up and grow a sense of humor why don't you? Or at least a sense of perspective.
You're dying on a very small cross for nothing with a speech like that. The comments come with the territory when you build something as radical as that, and it's all in good fun-- I'm sure Nick knows that and even expects it. |
Well then why don't you guys take a little of your own advice and lighten up and grow a sense of humor and perspective before you start knocking someones project? It is always the people that are defending the cars worth that get told to settle down, but yet we wouldn't be put on the defensive if the uninformed childish comments were not made in the first place. Those comments if anywhere belong in the rants section, not this one.
If some of these guys would think a little before they post instead of trying to be a part of "The VW Style Police" we wouldn't have to have discussions like this. |
I'll admit my initial comment was probably not the best. The car is definately not my style, and quite frankly a bit shocking to me at first glance. But I'm sure the owner put a lot of hard work into it and did his best. My apologies to Nick.
I called it a Rat Rod because it had a bit of a "rough" look to it, a bit lumpy and bumpy, and with flat paint. Not because it had no fenders.
And I will give him big points for a really unique look. I get so tired of people "ohhing, and ahhing" over lower Beetles all on the same damn sets of wheels. After a while they all look the same to me. Maybe not may taste, but this car does make a big statement and stand on its own....
But to be fair, I'm sure there is some kind of plywood and duct tape abortion that would cause each of you would upchuck a little yourselves... and it too was one persons "Dream".... |
It cracks me up that some people here on the Samba get the reputation of being overly opinionated. Many people post pictures of their pride and joy and ASK "what do you think"? They then get their feelings hurt if people express their opinion. Yes, we should not be a dick about our opinions but don't get pissed if someone states they prefer VW's stock, lowered, slammed, etc.
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What about using the word "vomit", is that OK? 
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johnshenry
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We'd all have nothing but kind comments about the infamous "snorkelstang", right?
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sixfootdan
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I'm making a fenderless rod but I love seeing vintage shit too. Grow some thicker skin and enjoy your VW.
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Elwood
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| wcfvw69 wrote: |
| johnshenry wrote: |
| Hotrodheb wrote: |
| coad wrote: |
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| Once again you guys live up to your reputation. Knock down a good man's hard work. Of course I would expect nothing less of you guy's by now though. Nick is the type of guy that would help you out in a heartbeat and he provides info for all to see on his website. I have been on the Samba for a while now. I now see why I am canceling my membership and continuing to go to Volksrods.com. Even there when there is a disagreement we are still like family |
Lighten up and grow a sense of humor why don't you? Or at least a sense of perspective.
You're dying on a very small cross for nothing with a speech like that. The comments come with the territory when you build something as radical as that, and it's all in good fun-- I'm sure Nick knows that and even expects it. |
Well then why don't you guys take a little of your own advice and lighten up and grow a sense of humor and perspective before you start knocking someones project? It is always the people that are defending the cars worth that get told to settle down, but yet we wouldn't be put on the defensive if the uninformed childish comments were not made in the first place. Those comments if anywhere belong in the rants section, not this one.
If some of these guys would think a little before they post instead of trying to be a part of "The VW Style Police" we wouldn't have to have discussions like this. |
I'll admit my initial comment was probably not the best. The car is definately not my style, and quite frankly a bit shocking to me at first glance. But I'm sure the owner put a lot of hard work into it and did his best. My apologies to Nick.
I called it a Rat Rod because it had a bit of a "rough" look to it, a bit lumpy and bumpy, and with flat paint. Not because it had no fenders.
And I will give him big points for a really unique look. I get so tired of people "ohhing, and ahhing" over lower Beetles all on the same damn sets of wheels. After a while they all look the same to me. Maybe not may taste, but this car does make a big statement and stand on its own....
But to be fair, I'm sure there is some kind of plywood and duct tape abortion that would cause each of you would upchuck a little yourselves... and it too was one persons "Dream".... |
It cracks me up that some people here on the Samba get the reputation of being overly opinionated. Many people post pictures of their pride and joy and ASK "what do you think"? They then get their feelings hurt if people express their opinion. Yes, we should not be a dick about our opinions but don't get pissed if someone states they prefer VW's stock, lowered, slammed, etc.
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What about using the word "vomit", is that OK? |
Just for the sake of having a lot of quotes within quotes. Something I noticed there was alot of here. Figured i would join in the fun. |
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David
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| You slip that picture into the middle of a thread about VW Prototypes and, yeah, it's gonna get some funny looks-- it's like seeing a whore in church. |
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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wcfvw69
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| johnshenry wrote: |
| Hotrodheb wrote: |
| coad wrote: |
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| Once again you guys live up to your reputation. Knock down a good man's hard work. Of course I would expect nothing less of you guy's by now though. Nick is the type of guy that would help you out in a heartbeat and he provides info for all to see on his website. I have been on the Samba for a while now. I now see why I am canceling my membership and continuing to go to Volksrods.com. Even there when there is a disagreement we are still like family |
Lighten up and grow a sense of humor why don't you? Or at least a sense of perspective.
You're dying on a very small cross for nothing with a speech like that. The comments come with the territory when you build something as radical as that, and it's all in good fun-- I'm sure Nick knows that and even expects it. |
Well then why don't you guys take a little of your own advice and lighten up and grow a sense of humor and perspective before you start knocking someones project? It is always the people that are defending the cars worth that get told to settle down, but yet we wouldn't be put on the defensive if the uninformed childish comments were not made in the first place. Those comments if anywhere belong in the rants section, not this one.
If some of these guys would think a little before they post instead of trying to be a part of "The VW Style Police" we wouldn't have to have discussions like this. |
I'll admit my initial comment was probably not the best. The car is definately not my style, and quite frankly a bit shocking to me at first glance. But I'm sure the owner put a lot of hard work into it and did his best. My apologies to Nick.
I called it a Rat Rod because it had a bit of a "rough" look to it, a bit lumpy and bumpy, and with flat paint. Not because it had no fenders.
And I will give him big points for a really unique look. I get so tired of people "ohhing, and ahhing" over lower Beetles all on the same damn sets of wheels. After a while they all look the same to me. Maybe not may taste, but this car does make a big statement and stand on its own....
But to be fair, I'm sure there is some kind of plywood and duct tape abortion that would cause each of you would upchuck a little yourselves... and it too was one persons "Dream".... |
It cracks me up that some people here on the Samba get the reputation of being overly opinionated. Many people post pictures of their pride and joy and ASK "what do you think"? They then get their feelings hurt if people express their opinion. Yes, we should not be a dick about our opinions but don't get pissed if someone states they prefer VW's stock, lowered, slammed, etc.
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LOL-
I still chuckle thinking about a year or two ago when certain splits who owners bragged how correct their cars are were pulled into a link by you followed by "who wants to go 1st?"  They were then dissected at the displeasure of their owners.
Boy, that really pissed some people off didn't it. I roared with laughter reading some of those fired up owners responses who were way to uptight about their VW's. 
I have posted my car's and had things pointed out that were wrong with it and I took no offense. People need to learn to relax a little more.
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61TurboRagTop
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I saw the newly built by VW version @ Bad Camberg:
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Hey, look what I found!!! Isn't this what was originally asked for? I hope this isn't TOO far off topic.
As far as Nicks car, damn fine work for somebody who isn't a body man and HUGE props to him for recreating his version of the prototype. I followed his "build thread" on the volksrod site and was amazed at the work he did and the changes he made midstream because it just didn't look right.
Love it or hate it, you gotta appreciate the work that went into it.
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1961bluebug
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I would LOVE to see and hear some interesting news and info about VW 30 which weren´t published here yet..
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61TurboRagTop
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| I would LOVE to see and hear some interesting news and info about VW 30 which weren´t published here yet.. |
VW Trends and/or Hot VW's did an article on the car a couple years ago. There was quite a bit of info about the history of the original as well as this particular car.
Better start searching the back issues.
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Kubel Nick
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OK, first off that car is a work in progress. I bought it already chopped (not the best chop BTW). I never touched a welder before starting this project, I'm no welding expert, never claimed to be or anything. My 1st welding project is actually that dashboard. This is just my hobby, I don't do any metalwork as a living, I just learn as I go along. With the exception of minor work here and there (and the chop top), I basically did all the modifications single-handlely: sectioned (body chop), channelled/body drop, body relocation, dash, suicide doors, reshaped doors, safari windshield, reshaped roof, reshaped rear end, rear hatch, etc etc. The only thing that heasn't been modified is the front hood, and only because I haven't started the front end section yet. All done in metal BTW. There is no way I am capable of doing concourse work so it will be impossible to do a car with this much custom work w/o some bondo for me nor 99% of anyone here. Nor do I want to spend 20 additional years getting all the body work to concourse level, I want to finish this car one day but not in a hurry to finish it that I would sacrifice design over time (if I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this right).
Design wise, I had major influence from the Talbot Lago, hence the reshaped doors, etc. Mix that design with the Beetle with a touch of hot rod, you get a custom car that looks similar to the VW30 prototype. So I mixed that into my design as well (roof lines, rear louvered window, etc). It's definitely not meant to copy the VW30, so it's not a "poorly executed replica" of it.
Fast forward to 3.5 years into the project (last year); I decide to go back to college full time out of the country and the shell seems almost complete enough to see the final overall idea. So I decided to do what I can to make it look more presentable to show at a local car show just for fun (1.5 weeks time frame) before I head out to college. I did not have time to sand the body filler perfectly on the roof. I probably put a total of 3/4 gallon on the entire body while stripping 2 gallons of Bondo off from the botched chop top job when I bought it.
So that's that. The body is rough because it is a project. It was "temporarily finished" hurriedly for a car show before I leave the country for college. The Kubel/military theme(yes, real Kubel parts including stamped shovel, Notek blackout lights, '40 KDF rims, external semaphores, etc) is temporarily there for the local show only, will be fit and finished properly when done but driven regularly. I designed it for myself, built it for myself, etc. I know it won't please everyone nor would I be upset if I hear bad opinions of it. Make fun of the rough body work because it's barely sanded down, that's fine with me. All the bondo I put on it will probably be completely stripped again anyways since the body is far from finished. I put about 3.5 years into it so far, and estimate at least another 1.5 years before the body's completely done, making it about 60% done (though it may look 90% done in the picture). The rear end is far from 50% finished, especially the fender well area. Remember, I only had 1.5 weeks to completely make the roof, rear hatch, rear engine lid and rear fender wells (as well as primer, etc) before the show.
I'm just a hobbyist. I have no fancy garage. I did all this work in my backyard on an exposed concrete pad. And mostly just using my welder and angle grinder and nothing more. Estimate total costs so far (not including the car): $700 You don't like it, I wasn't expecting everyone to. Make fun of the design, I designed it for myself and not you. Make fun of my workmanship, it doesn't matter to me since I did the best that I can do with zero experience, minimum budget and literally bare minimal tools to use (at least 90% of all body work done with my welder and angle grinder only). Sure some things would've been better if I stamped new panels out instead, but I'm just a self-taught hobbyist and not someone with access to a full professional body shop now know-how |
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Kubel Nick
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And also, not hearing more negative (or harsher) feedback on it by now (the pict is about a year old already) is good enough for me. Makes me think I did something right (not a botched design or execution so far) to not get as much "purists" as upset
And search "VW30" in my site's gallery for lLOTS of pictures. Search for "VW3" for the other prototype's picts, or browse around my coachbuilds and prototype section in the gallery for other cool picts |
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sixfootdan
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And also, not hearing more negative (or harsher) feedback on it by now (the pict is about a year old already) is good enough for me. Makes me think I did something right (not a botched design or execution so far) to not get as much "purists" as upset
And search "VW30" in my site's gallery for lLOTS of pictures. Search for "VW3" for the other prototype's picts, or browse around my coachbuilds and prototype section in the gallery for other cool picts |
I like your car Nick, Except for those skinny ass rear wheels! Keep up the good work.
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Kubel Nick
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| I was using my real Kubelwagen rims/tires (my other project) for my temporary military theme setup. Why not use the real Kubel parts I have laying around when doing a Kubel theme, right? But in the end I'll be using my set of 30's Buick artillery rims with slightly wider tires in the back, but will still be tall and skinny ala "traditional hotrod" styling |
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hsosa1
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all the car s in this post are tight . PIMPING AINT EASY !
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soooo... nobody has seen those books? 
I love that car, Nick. |
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r39o
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I like it too. I wish I would have rough finished my 25 year labor of love so I could ride it before having to put it away again. What a fine thing.
For those that don't like it, remember that opinions are like a......s and everybody has one!
Now go learn yourself something and you can later afford to do better.
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I posted that pic of Kubel Nicks car after having read the thread about it then thinking this was related ... You know, vw30 replicas........ oh well.  I like it anyway. Neat idea Nick. |
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