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Leith Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2007 Posts: 44
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: I found one! |
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A Thing that is.
Hi,
My name is Leith, and I am new here. I have been searching the Ads for deals and such, but just registered, mainly to get some Thing input.
I live in south Louisiana and have come across the remnants of a VW Graveyard. In the yard they have left 4 Buses (T-2s I believe), 3 Bugs, 2 Ghias, and 1 Thing. While looking at them, I noticed some do not have engines, including the Thing, which is probably the one I want the most. The top is gone, the pans are completely rusted out, the rocker panels will need work, the seats MAY (highly doubtful) be salvageable, and there is no engine. I will post a pic below. Body isn't in horrible shape, but this would also be my 1st restoration.
Here is my question:
For a Thing in this much need of TLC, what would be a reasonable price? I haven't had a chance to talk to the owner to see what he wants. I was just wondering what you, the experts, would be willing to invest.
Here is the pic:
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ztnoo Samba Member
Joined: March 23, 2005 Posts: 801 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Only seeing one pic (which isn't sufficient IMO), I'd say $500-800 max.
My guess is there's some pretty ugly stuff in those rockers.
$$$$$ _________________ "Here we don't have a single clock in the shop- time doesn't matter." ----Jake Raby
"The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else."
When you put the 2 words "The" and "IRS" together it spells "Theirs"
* Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia ! |
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Leith Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2007 Posts: 44
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I was running out of daylight, and that was the best one I had. If I go back soon, I'll post more.
Thanks,
Leith |
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Pinky Samba Ass Bandit
Joined: December 31, 2003 Posts: 554
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Ooof- It's just my opinion, but judging from the pic, that's looks like it's gonna be an expensive undertaking. The rockers alone would be enough to scare me off.
I'd suggest trying not to nickel and dime yourself to death with that guy and save up a few grand and buy yourself a solid runner. You would be surprised what you can find in the 2.5-3k range if you take your time. Don't run for the first Thing that comes along. They're definitely out there and this is one of the best places to find them.
(Speaking from experience- I've bought waaaay too many rusty incomplete cars on impulse and have finally learned my lesson) |
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kuebelwagen84 Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2007 Posts: 144 Location: Edison, NJ
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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ztnoo wrote: |
Only seeing one pic (which isn't sufficient IMO), I'd say $500-800 max.
My guess is there's some pretty ugly stuff in those rockers.
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On my car, I've already bought new rocker panels (from eis, something like $800 or so including shipping), floor pans (we'll call it close to $300), rear drums, fuel tank/lines, and mirrors and my car was still in better condition (though still not great in the least)
my Thing also has a very solid engine with 54,000 miles on it which in a way redeemed it somewhat and I paid $1500 for it... I'm able to do the painting and welding with a buddy of mine so I'll save alot in labor, another thing which can be very costly if you can't do it yourself
just know what you're getting yourself into, for that condition I would maybe pay 300-500 at the very most... I agree with the other guys, save up and buy a solid Thing, as you can see from all the money I've invested already, it would have been better if I did the same _________________ // '73 Thing "Jeep Zerstörer" currently being restored / kustomized
// '07 Rabbit taking over daily driver duties
1600s of air-cooled German muscle! |
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Towel Rail Horizontally Opposed
Joined: April 15, 2005 Posts: 4622 Location: SE CR IA US NA PE
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Leith wrote: |
Yeah, I was running out of daylight, and that was the best one I had. If I go back soon, I'll post more.
Thanks,
Leith |
Gotta have sunshine over Leith.
Welcome to the Samba! _________________ 1974 Thing -- under the knife
1967 Beetle -- spring/summer/fall driver
1996 Subaru OBW (EJ22, 5-speed, AWD) -- winter car, 3-seasons "don't feel like biking today" car
049 > 070 > 053 > 009 |
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mstatedog Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2003 Posts: 242 Location: East Coast of Mississippi
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Looks a hair worse than mine when I bought it. Mine also had no engine. I paid $300 and spent around 7K to completely redo...and 2-1/2 years of my life. (weekends and some during the week....lots of sanding)
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FreakCitySF Samba Member
Joined: June 08, 2004 Posts: 642 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Would you consider making this Thing into a artificial reef?
Titanic picture anyone? |
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BugZyla.com Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2004 Posts: 642 Location: Mesa, AZ
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like you need a tetnis shot just to get near it. I think I would pass unless you can pick it up for $300-$400 _________________ Daryll http://www.azbaja.com P.R.
http://www.bugzyla.com
"Why is there Braille on a Drive Thru ATM?" |
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Leith Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2007 Posts: 44
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:57 am Post subject: |
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First off, I really appreciate all the advice! I figured, especially not having an engine, that this project would definitely take a great deal of time, effort, and cash to get in a drivable state.
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Looks like you need a tetnis shot just to get near it. |
I felt the same way. The closest I dared get, mainly because of Wasps, was to see if it had an engine, other than that, I stayed my distance.
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I think I would pass unless you can pick it up for $300-$400 |
I was actually going to start bargaining at around $200, hopefully they just want it gone.
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Gotta have sunshine over Leith. |
If I get this running, with the top down, I'll get plenty of sunshine. AND hopefully I won't have to Walk 500 Miles.
Again thanks for all the advice!
Leith |
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dr.ona Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2007 Posts: 104 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:14 am Post subject: |
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I would only buy that for the parts....That body isn't work restoring unless you can do the fabricating yourself.
I can guarantee that will nickel and dime you to death.... |
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bmwloco Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2006 Posts: 1093 Location: Asheville NC
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:13 am Post subject: |
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I'd go $100, tops. |
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markie61 Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2005 Posts: 583 Location: Northern Virginia
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:20 am Post subject: |
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bmwloco wrote: |
I'd go $100, tops. |
This thread is starting to sound like a "bidding war" - only backwards!
Mark _________________ Whut is that-there Thang!?
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Chicks dig my Thing - so what if it's little and yellow...!? |
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ztnoo Samba Member
Joined: March 23, 2005 Posts: 801 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: |
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This thread is starting to sound like a "bidding war" - only backwards! |
I've changed my mind......$99 tops!!!
How about a reverse Bidnapper???
_________________ "Here we don't have a single clock in the shop- time doesn't matter." ----Jake Raby
"The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else."
When you put the 2 words "The" and "IRS" together it spells "Theirs"
* Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia ! |
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Leith Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2007 Posts: 44
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:15 am Post subject: |
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I'll just take it off his hands for him. After all, I am doing him a favor! Maybe I should get him to pay me to take it! |
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bucko Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2004 Posts: 2617 Location: Coppell, Texas
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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How fast can you run? I'd haul butt from this one.
Save a few extra bucks and add to your current stash, then get one with less body rot.
Repairing that much rot is going to take a hole lot of panels, and I don't think even Kubelman has that many spare body parts! _________________ Current VW drives: 1984 Westfalia
Past VW drives: 1967 Beetle, 1973 Beetle, 1977 Bus, 1971 Military Type 181 |
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Leith Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, so I went back this afternoon and braved the wasps and worse, big ass spiders to get a better look at the body work (of course I forgot my camera). The worst spot is the area on the driver side panel (other than the floor pans). All the other rust is just surface rust, from what I can tell. The engine and front compartments are spotless. The back doors may need to be patched or replaced, but I figures that is the least of my worries. I did get a glimpse at the transaxle from the engine compartment and it was better that I expected. It seems that the only major problem areas are where water sat for a while. And, of course, there is the small task of finding an engine...
All-in-all, I won't make any decisions until I find out what the guy wants for it.
Oh, I also got a Chassis Number:
183 2944 238E
It said Made in Mexico, but I haven't tried to find out what year. Anybody know? Nevermind, found it.
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mstatedog Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2003 Posts: 242 Location: East Coast of Mississippi
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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ahh....but a thing beam will fetch about $300....and a gas heater? I see other good body parts...hood, fenders, bumper, seat backs, rear view mirror.... |
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Semper_Dad Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2005 Posts: 3510 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Leith wrote: |
Ok, so I went back this afternoon and braved the wasps and worse, big ass spiders to get a better look at the body work (of course I forgot my camera)
.Oh, I also got a Chassis Number:
183 2944 238E
It said Made in Mexico, but I haven't tried to find out what year. Anybody know? Nevermind, found it. |
Unless I possessed some special skills like metal fabrication and welding I probably wouldn't start with a vehicle in that bad of shape for a first project. Whatever you decision,...good luck on your search
Based on the VIN ( and lack of engine muffs), it should be a 73. As far as I know all 181s imported to the US (73 and 74) were assembled in Mexico. |
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emersonbiggins Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2003 Posts: 1681 Location: Nebraska
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Borrow some money from someone and buy a Thing with less problems. |
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