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titan Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 53 Location: pittsburgh,pa
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:59 am Post subject: how to remove air scoops |
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I have a 74 thing with the big air scoops over the rear fenders and want to remove them. They are riveted on. what the best way to remove them. should I just drill threw/out the rivets?
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lowsquare Samba Member
Joined: May 29, 2004 Posts: 287 Location: Queen Creek, AZ
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Drilling out the rivet would do the trick...you know the "scoops" are stock on a '74? Are you removing them to paint and then re-install? Or are you removing them to discard? If it's the latter you'll have a big hole to contend with... _________________ PRAISE THE LOWERED.
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wings_n_fins Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 166 Location: Mangilao, Guam USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: |
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My '73 has '74-style air intakes, but retains the '73 louvers. Is it likely that I have a late-model '73 and that the scoops are originals from the factory, or that they were merely added on later? _________________ DAVE
'73 Thing
'07 Harley Sportster
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titan Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 53 Location: pittsburgh,pa
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:34 am Post subject: |
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I plan to remove them for good. I don't like the look and prefer the the more stream line look of the 73 louvers. Can anyone explain to me the reason the air scoops went from the louver style in 73 to the big scoops in 74?
So, I simply need to drill out the rivets holding the scoops on?
I will come up with something to deal with the resulting hole after removing the scoops. maybe weld in some 73 louvers or something. |
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Woreign Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: Crestview FL
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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The scoops are used to direct the air intake from above rather than below. Since 74's came with the standard heat exchangers, the engineers wanted to ensure that fresh air was sucked into the fan and blown into the cabin and not any exhaust fumes! |
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lowsquare Samba Member
Joined: May 29, 2004 Posts: 287 Location: Queen Creek, AZ
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Van-go108 Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2006 Posts: 2995 Location: Southwestern, NM
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Mines the opposite. '73 with the "scoops" added. Dude said it was to help keep the dust out of the motor area from all the dirt road driving. I don't want the holes so now I'm stuck with them. _________________ "Okay, so there's 6 beers and 5 of us. You know what this means don't you? 4 of you are going to have to leave."
1973 Thing
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Towel Rail Horizontally Opposed
Joined: April 15, 2005 Posts: 4622 Location: SE CR IA US NA PE
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Van-go108 wrote: |
Mines the opposite. '73 with the "scoops" added. Dude said it was to help keep the dust out of the motor area from all the dirt road driving. I don't want the holes so now I'm stuck with them. |
You can always weld the holes shut. _________________ 1974 Thing -- under the knife
1967 Beetle -- spring/summer/fall driver
1996 Subaru OBW (EJ22, 5-speed, AWD) -- winter car, 3-seasons "don't feel like biking today" car
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wings_n_fins Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 166 Location: Mangilao, Guam USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Or you could use Bondo.
... I'm ready: y'all can begin beating me, now. _________________ DAVE
'73 Thing
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npconnor Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2007 Posts: 194 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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wings_n_fins wrote: |
Or you could use Bondo.
... I'm ready: y'all can begin beating me, now. |
Haha, don't worry, I got lot's of bondo in my hood, but nowhere else, I guess my PO had it half covered or something.
_________________ '73 Thing
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61Panelwagen Banned
Joined: July 28, 2004 Posts: 319 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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I couldnt stand the 74 scoops either so i took them off and made the hole bigger for better ventalation.Now i will never have heating problems.....
But a drill bit does the trick when removing the scoops and then just hit it with a MIG and plug them up and file them down for nice results. |
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surfarii Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2006 Posts: 307 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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titan wrote: |
I plan to remove them for good. I don't like the look and prefer the the more stream line look of the 73 louvers. |
Are they in good condition and do you have any interest in selling them?
I like the chunky look on raised ones and the smooth 73 look on lowered.
PM me if you do Mahalo , John |
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mstatedog Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2003 Posts: 242 Location: East Coast of Mississippi
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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or do something like this. I plugged the holes with plastic plugs...so it could be reversed.
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titan Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 53 Location: pittsburgh,pa
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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surfarii, once removed I plan on selling the air scoops. The drivers side scoop is in excellent condition, The passenger side is in the same overall condition except that the previous owner had a rear tire gate on the car and made a ~5mm wide by 2cm long cut in the back corner of the scoop. I haven't removed them yet, as i am still buillding the courage as to how to do it without causing more damage.
I like all the ideas/pics so far guys, thanks. |
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honky Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2006 Posts: 149 Location: Connecticut, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: The scoop |
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leave em alone, You are opening a can of worms. Eventually you will learn to love them. The more you take the car away from original condition the less valuable it becomes. Look for more constructive ways to improve the car lke detailing the motor, making sure all the hinge pins are in good working order, por 15 the bottom of the pans, etc,etc,etc |
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titan Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 53 Location: pittsburgh,pa
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:41 am Post subject: |
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honky, I appreciate your feeling about keeping the car orginal and I respect that. I bought a car on purpose that had its originality already ruined so that I could justify stripping the paint, changing that engine, fenders, etc. to obtain what I invisioned my thing to be. The scoops are as good as gone, I just don't like them. |
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honky Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2006 Posts: 149 Location: Connecticut, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:01 am Post subject: scoop |
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Sorry, Just thought you were getting yourself into a quagmire. You see so many old VW's torn apart with best intentions only to see them end up as a pile of junk. Good luck with it. Post some pics of your progress as it happens. |
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61Panelwagen Banned
Joined: July 28, 2004 Posts: 319 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: The scoop |
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honky wrote: |
The more you take the car away from original condition the less valuable it becomes. |
That is only a personal opinion but not fact. I respect you being a purist but keep your opinion as opinions.
Removing the scoops will litteraly take 10 minutes to do.You will take longer setting everything up, then it would drilling out the rivets. Dont hesitate and just do it. In my opinion, the hole looks better then the ugly muffs, meanwhile you figure out what you will replace it with.
Good luck |
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