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finster Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Peter-Max Muller heads |
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cool _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9829 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: Muller |
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DDub wrote: |
Did Petermax Muller have a new car dealer or ONLY build and sell modified cars? |
Digging up an old thread here.
I see that my '66 Tourist Delivery Beetle got its 300 mile service and inspection at Petermax Muller VW in Hanover on September 2nd, 1965.
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vintage fiberglass Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2006 Posts: 485 Location: Reading, Pa
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:32 am Post subject: Re: Peter-Max Muller heads |
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Does anyone know if Peter Max Muller in Germany had a son and how to contact him? I know Peter Max Muller the (1950's to 1970's) German race car driver died a while back and his wife as well. I was wondering if he had a son and where he might be?? Tim |
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ZENVWDRIVER Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2008 Posts: 3340 Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Peter-Max Muller heads |
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… Peter Max (different P Max with a different head) was all the rage of the art world when I was in art school in NYC, back in the 1960s - This Max did all the art work for the Beatles, Yellow Submarine movie - z
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2015 Posts: 719 Location: Rialto. CA
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: Peter-Max Muller heads |
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I found this today boy does it sound so good my dream engine 👇👇👇👇👇👇
https://youtu.be/JIkx0gzNumQ
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2015 Posts: 719 Location: Rialto. CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: Peter-Max Muller heads |
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Does anyone know what size valves did this peter max muller engine have ... |
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Slow 1200 Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2004 Posts: 2106
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:26 am Post subject: Re: Peter-Max Muller heads |
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I'm assuming this is the same heads we were talking about???
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Unobtanium-inc Samba Member
Joined: April 07, 2007 Posts: 345 Location: Upstate NY
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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What is the 2nd car pictured? |
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loenicz Samba Member
Joined: February 06, 2008 Posts: 24 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hy,
here are some Peter Max Müller pics, shot at the Prototyp Museum 2008.......
Bye
Jörg
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TangoCharly Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2009 Posts: 10
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:13 am Post subject: |
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I have read in a book recently that the same type of heads were used in two of the engines for the type 64 cars. Petermax Mulle bougth them directly after the war from the Porsche Gmund workshops. |
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maartenmoerman Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2009 Posts: 27 Location: NL
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: weird wheels |
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overrestored wrote: |
they are dated 1949... I forget what month. The holes were drilled I think... I can see how they spiral into the steel... but there is only about 3/4 of a turn of the spiral to get all the way through the rim... so the jig was under great pressure of some sort.
The 15 inch size is weird for 1949 and the 4 inch width is also odd. |
according to 1 article, the wheels are 16" |
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Björn Schewe Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2004 Posts: 633
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:57 am Post subject: |
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Thats true. Volkswagen only used 16"-wheels. But the 205-wheels were not only used for Volkswagen. Opel, Tempo, Tatra, Bristol and different other companies used 205-wheels for their cars. And Trailers, because these wheels were very popular as a wheel for a trailer.
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DDub Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2005 Posts: 307 Location: central pa.
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. So I guess that goes against everything we know about ALL VWs haveing 16's until '52? Drilling those would be easy, might try some. |
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overrestored Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:32 pm Post subject: weird wheels |
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they are dated 1949... I forget what month. The holes were drilled I think... I can see how they spiral into the steel... but there is only about 3/4 of a turn of the spiral to get all the way through the rim... so the jig was under great pressure of some sort.
The 15 inch size is weird for 1949 and the 4 inch width is also odd. |
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DDub Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2005 Posts: 307 Location: central pa.
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Overrestored, what date is on them? Are the holes punched or drilled. They look cool, would not be hard to drill on a milling machine. |
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overrestored Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: odd wheels |
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Not to hijack the thread... but I have a set of wheels like these... drilled out. I was wondering the origin??? My wheels are Lemmerz... dated 1949 and they are 4j by 15. Wide by the late forties standards.... and 15 inch was pretty rare then too. I suppose they are lightened racing wheels...???
They were originally on an original Heb... but the new owner didn't want them and instead installed a set of 16 inch smoothies... So I bought the weird wheels.
anyone ever seen any others like this?
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SuperLeicht Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2005 Posts: 45 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:29 am Post subject: |
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I've seen and heard this car run and it's LOUD! It was on display at the Hedingham Castle Porsche meet in England (June 2007)
A friend called Andy Prill (UK 356 Specialist) built the engine, he said the it's turbine smooth and happy to rev.
I've got some photos of the enigine, I'll post them up later. |
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mightymouse Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 4220 Location: las vegas
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Those heads are bad ASS. oh man. think about how far ahead of his time homeboy was. dude. This made my month. i LOVE vintage tech. The stuff they did, was so awesome, why arent there any bad ass innovators like that now? people just mod what exists now. _________________ Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude.
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metalchomper Samba Member
Joined: June 27, 2005 Posts: 703 Location: Statesville, NC
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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maartenmoerman wrote: |
Forgot this picture... |
Thanks for clarifying the heads! It's been driving me nuts all day trying to picture what they actually look like. Now if there was only a picture of the chambers.......... _________________ Brett
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maartenmoerman Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Forgot this picture... |
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