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richtrek Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2006 Posts: 204 Location: Santa Clarita Valley Area
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: Do I need a new fuse box? |
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Just had an alarm installed, which opened up a hornet's nest of problems. I will be going back for my fifth visit this Tuesday. The guy said that I should get my fuse box replaced because wires are falling off to easily.
Is the alarm guy correct, that installing a new box would be a safer, and reliable, alternative to the old box? Also, can us "Thing folks" even buy a new Thing Fuse box? |
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Thingggg Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2004 Posts: 353
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Yes you can get a new one but the wires will be the problem.
Maybe your alarm guy has shaky hands |
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kubelmann Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2003 Posts: 3266
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:44 am Post subject: |
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If wires are loose, why not carefully use a pair of needle nose pliers and gently tighten them. The connectors are brass making them easy to tighten with mild pressure. REmove each connector that is loose (one at a time) gnetly compress the conector opening and reinstall. Remember to disconnect the battery prior to working on the fuse box with pliers.. A new fuse box willnot tighten the connectors. |
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Shamu63 Samba Member
Joined: August 04, 2006 Posts: 83
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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After looking behind my dash pods I realized the wiring and the brass "shoes" that VW used 30+ years ago don't do so well with corrosion. I went to the hardware store and grabbed the multiple size box of electrical wire connectors; Included are shoes and crimptubes of all sizes. If the wires are solid, pick up a set of these and trim the ends back a little. Not too much as some wires are tight to begin with.
As long as the shoe "plates" are solid the new shoes will fit fine and you shouldn't have to replace. But if you have a new one... might as well replace it and make sure things are done right.
Long story short- One afternoon with some wire crimpers/cutters, spare spools of wire and the box of connectors, and i rewired 90% of my dash.
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kubelmann Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2003 Posts: 3266
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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On the other hand oxidation can be removed by a number of methods and the orignal ends have a number of advantages electrically over the after market crimp connectors. Although there is a point where corrosion is the enemy and new connectors is the answer. After almost 35 years. the VW Thing tends to be plagued with a number of common electrical phantoms. The design has power going through the 4 way, headlights, turn signals and more. One bad headlight ground can cause other areas to fail. Sometimes one ground is providing the full circuit for multiple locations and when it get hurt through a resto process then multiple areas go down. This creates a difficult troubleshooting scenario. I have taken a VW to "someone else" more than once because I was too close to the problem. But when it is someone else's problem it is easy to troubleshoot and fix. There is apparently an emotional factor in all of this. |
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xeno Samba Member
Joined: July 26, 2006 Posts: 653 Location: Mile High
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: |
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kubelmann wrote: |
The design has power going through the 4 way, headlights, turn signals and more. One bad headlight ground can cause other areas to fail. Sometimes one ground is providing the full circuit for multiple locations and when it get hurt through a resto process then multiple areas go down. |
Are you saying its like the old christmas lights from back in they day? When one bulb failed all the bulb were off?
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Captain Spalding Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2005 Posts: 2519 Location: . . . in denial.
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Shamu63 wrote: |
After looking behind my dash pods I realized the wiring and the brass "shoes" that VW used 30+ years ago don't do so well with corrosion. |
A little contact cleaner does wonders.
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Shamu63 Samba Member
Joined: August 04, 2006 Posts: 83
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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yep, contact cleaner I use is called "Blue Wash" cleans up the contacts nicely if things aren't too far gone. Unfortunately these were so bad that one ear of almost all the shoes was cracked and wouldn't seat correctly.
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bucko Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2004 Posts: 2617 Location: Coppell, Texas
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Captain Spalding wrote: |
Shamu63 wrote: |
After looking behind my dash pods I realized the wiring and the brass "shoes" that VW used 30+ years ago don't do so well with corrosion. |
A little contact cleaner does wonders.
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Looks like you too work in the telephone industry? I've punched down many of those blocks.....blue,orange,green,brown,slate. _________________ Current VW drives: 1984 Westfalia
Past VW drives: 1967 Beetle, 1973 Beetle, 1977 Bus, 1971 Military Type 181 |
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Captain Spalding Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2005 Posts: 2519 Location: . . . in denial.
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:43 am Post subject: |
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bucko wrote: |
Looks like you too work in the telephone industry? I've punched down many of those blocks.....blue,orange,green,brown,slate. |
Well, no, but when we were renovating our house a few years ago, I wired every room with POTS, CAT5e, and coax. Got my own punch down tool, butt set, and tone and probe kit.
I am a special effects man, which requires one to be a jack-of-all-trades. |
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