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aircooled Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 8:52 am Post subject: Buying a 49 Split |
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I'm looking a buy a 49 Split. Are there any 49 only items I should look for and how can I tell if the fenders, aprons, are original. What other things should I look at when buying a split? _________________ 67 Sun Roof / Born Sept 66 / Second Owner
67 Convertible / Born Aug 66 / Second Owner
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aircooled Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2003 Posts: 1290 Location: Heartland, Neb
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:57 am Post subject: |
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If someone could help me with this post that would be great. _________________ 67 Sun Roof / Born Sept 66 / Second Owner
67 Convertible / Born Aug 66 / Second Owner
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9364 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Your question is a little broad and not easily answered in a single post. Many here, like myself, love to help but when we see questions that will require paragraphs of text, it is a little overwhelming and we pass it up.
There are many aspects to ascertaining what to look for in a split. As for '49 only items, I think it may be month dependent, but I am no expert. Deluxes came out in the letter part of that year.
Rear fenders should have the dot-dash pressings on the flanges, and the front apron should be 4 finger, with the "punched out" tabs in the wheel well to hold the headlight wiring, not welded on tabs.
Rear apron should be an H apron with no tailpipe cutouts.
Front fenders should have the bulge where they meet the running board, circular horn grills (if deluxe). There are other details on split front fenders I can't recall at the moment, search this forum ... _________________ John Henry
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aircooled Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2003 Posts: 1290 Location: Heartland, Neb
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Henry, Thanks for the information. I'm a long time 67 purest and I have like a check list of things I look for on 67's. I understand what you are saying about the changing every month. I'm just trying to get a list of things I can check to tell what is right and wrong, which is going to effect the amount of money needed to get it back to original configuration.
It does seem like there are all sorts of changes that took place during production that is for sure.
Thanks,
Richard _________________ 67 Sun Roof / Born Sept 66 / Second Owner
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Bengt H Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2005 Posts: 332 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have a chassi number of the car you are interested in?? then it would bee a lot easier to tell what it should or not should have. -49 is the year when most changes was. |
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ZwitterND Samba Member
Joined: September 08, 2005 Posts: 1451 Location: Fargo, ND
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I was going to buy a 49 once, then I woke up. When it comes to splits ol' Henry knows his stuff. _________________ Bill |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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There are some things that are shared with later splits (especially the standard splits), but pretty much all 49's (deluxe or standard) have these items.
Probably the biggest and most difficult things to find are taillights (thin versus thick rings), Left/Right semaphores, mushroom airfilter, Rearview mirror (early ones have a "football" mirror), shocks (single action lever shocks), cable brakes (the parts for them),
There are several other subtle details that those of us that own one would notice:
Front fenders have a deper headlight bucket and wider head-on profile because of it.
Rear fender pressings on the trailing edge are different than later oval ones (althought this could be a split versus oval thing).
Bumper guards
And of course, the VIN |
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RichOakley Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2004 Posts: 1108 Location: Midlands, UK
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 3:41 am Post subject: |
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There is a world of difference between Pre-July '49 cars and Post-July '49 cars. Let us know the chassis number and then perhaps all of us (including Henry) can comment further. |
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado
Joined: June 16, 2006 Posts: 24059 Location: Southeast USA
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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johnshenry wrote: |
Your question is a little broad and not easily answered in a single post. Many here, like myself, love to help but when we see questions that will require paragraphs of text, it is a little overwhelming and we pass it up. |
That's right. It's too general a question without a chassis number. Like other production years including '67, the VW was changed from month to month, and an early '49 is a different beast compared to a late '49. Major modifications included floorpans, decklid, bumpers and the dash. _________________ We are striving for perfection, to make our cars run forever, if possible.
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twinwindows Samba Pimp
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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RichOakley wrote: |
There is a world of difference between Pre-July '49 cars and Post-July '49 cars. |
You can say that again! _________________ CRG
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356king Samba Member
Joined: November 12, 2005 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: Buying a 49 Split |
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aircooled wrote: |
I'm looking a buy a 49 Split. Are there any 49 only items I should look for and how can I tell if the fenders, aprons, are original. What other things should I look at when buying a split? |
it would be a big help, if you would post a few pics, i have owned a few splits over the years, including a couple `49`s and 1 was a july deluxe model. |
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