Wings (Fenders to most of you) pictures please

[Lee Ivatt]

Hi im now at the stage to work on my wings.

I recently snadblasted the wings which have and to my suprise they were all 98% rust free, only the odd bit of surface rust. so now they are pure metal and i have primed them for now to protect them a bit.

This is going to sound stupid, but when i got the wings i left them outside my cartlodge for a week or so , as i was installing a pit in inside , the body and chassis were away at the time in the sand blasting shop. anyway they were out side. and i didnt know they were anything special or i would put them somewhere else .(i was new to splits)

To get to the point, my father in law drove his 2.5 ton landrover into one corner of them and they were a bit bent, not to bad as i stoped him before he went right over. sounds worse than it is. plus they did need some work anyway.

Anyway i am asking very nicley if you guys have and really detailed photos of split wings both front and rears so i can get my hammer and dolly out and make them true.

I have a 1949 standard, so no horn holes present.

thanks in advance, sorry to have to ask, as its only my stupidity that nessistates this post.
Ive seen the odd picture but nothing clear enough to work from!

[Bruce]

Here's a start:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_tLHbK42Tzm0/Ryju21T5ybI/AAAAAAAAAc8/vV3p2MAHSJw/s1600-h/skjerm.jpg

Go here to find more pics:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php
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[HeSa]

Hi Lee, you say you found a set of original std split front fenders. Congrats! Not easy. How ever I´d start by studying the wheel opening. Confirming the originality of deluxe fenders is easy. If they have the original holes for the round horn grills you are safe. But stds might be a but trickier. I´d assume they were without horn grill openings way beyond splits yet had the metal cable conduits. Here´s a pic of the difference in the measurements. Left is a Split / Oval fender. Right a metal cable conduit fender that is probably 58 or 59. The refrence is the tip of the molding - you have to figure out how to find that same point from your std.

[HeSa]

Here´s how the headlight bucket looks like. It is smooth. Later wings have sharper edges in the area that is highlighted.

[HeSa]

And here´s the very visible well known difference.

[HeSa]

Correct wheel opening

Incorrect wheel opening

[Lee Ivatt]

wow great thanks for all the information.

I'm not sure if the wings are split or very early oval i.e 54.?
I cant remember what the bloke said, they are no later than 54 anyway! when i first began sourcing parts i didnt know my arse from my elbow when it came to splits, hence me leaving them to be crushed!!

it may shock you that I only saw my first ever complete split in real steel in july at Stanford Hall this year (George Lloyds grey '47), id already owned my car for 8 months. still find it hard to visualise one when i close my eyes.

Ive spent nearly a year looking on the net for a set of split wings (as i was just gona sell my crushed pair for peanuts) but and no luck (doesnt help that i dont know what they look like) hell i could have a set right here in front of me, i'll have to try and cross reference them with the pics you have given me when i get a rainy day and im not working. what ever way, they will need shaping thanks to my ignorance and a 2.5 ton landrover.

I have a feeling knowing my luck they are oval 54, would be cool though if they were split and all this time i never knew it!

took a few looks to understand the last post above. I see now the split arch is symmetrical where as the later wing is of center/set back to the wheel, right??

Any pics of the backs anyone.
thanks so much again.

[HeSa]

The last two pics are supposed to show that the wheel opening is bigger in the late fenders as in the early ones. 1954 should be the same as split. The car in the pics is with 16" wheels.

Pascal!!! You should share some pictures of the nice rear ones you got recently and that are probably just hanging useless on your garage wall.

[Lee Ivatt]

ive read in places that the split headlight is also an inch or so lower than the later oval position? is this correct or does it relate to the earlier kdf?

Still would like some pictures of the rears and more of that buldge on the front wing that meets the front end of the running board.

thanks.

[tazm]

HMMM,

OPA is restoring now my fenders !!
Alot more work then that fender you bought from me , but he's doing A great Job again !!! : D

Guido

[passoa55]

[jooles]

I'm digging this topic out...

So, split and (at least early) oval frond fenders are the same? And except for the taillight area, split and oval rear fenders are the same?

So there are no difference to let more clearance for 16" wheels?

Do someone have pics of the taillight area on a rear fender?

Thank you!

Julien

[HeSa]

[johan_l]

so, how wrong would a pair of late oval fenders look on a split then?

Would be great to see the split - early oval - late oval - 58 - 64 and so on style fenders...

Is it mainly the front fenders that differs? I know that rear has a pressing for the rear light - but nothing more?

I have smashed and rusted (but correct) split fenders on the split I dug up (splitted split thread) - what is the best to get pretty original looking fenders without spending a fortune?
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Johan, Sweden
1960 Karmann-Ghia coupé
1957 Oval window
Bastard Split window <-- Translate

[mrsherbie]

[mrsherbie]

OH! I just saw the pics!
Forget repairing them maybe just find some oval wings then!
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Anna.

quote 50karmann " it'll wreck the patina you haven't worked so hard to create"

[jooles]

Thank you very much for the answer!

Any pics of the pressing for the light on a rear fender?

Thanks

Julien

[johan_l]

Woffe has them in repro; http://www.wolfparts.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=71
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Johan, Sweden
1960 Karmann-Ghia coupé
1957 Oval window
Bastard Split window <-- Translate

[virtanen]

[jooles]

Thanks for the pics and infos!

Julien