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titan Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 53 Location: pittsburgh,pa
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: sheet metal for fabrication |
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maybe obvious to those skilled at metal work but I need some small pieces of sheet metal for some fab work. what gauge/type of sheet metal will work best on a thing? I'm new to this but having fun learning as I go. |
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surfarii Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2006 Posts: 307 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Tell us more about what you are going to fabricate and I will try and help
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titan Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 53 Location: pittsburgh,pa
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: |
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fenders, body panel and inner rocker repair, possibly some work on the hood. some rust repair and some customizing. When people do this knid of work, where do they get their sheet metal? can i buy the stuff from Lowe's or Home Depot or should I buy random junk yard parts from misc. cars and cut them up? |
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miscreantgnomie Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2005 Posts: 637 Location: Near lackland AFB come and visit
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: |
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usually there are places named like s and s metal in your city they make steel for like those steel buildings and all sorts girders etc. they sell sheet metal in varous sizes and a lot cheaper then lowes home dept.
I would go as thick as the part you are replacing. you can also buy used hoods in a junk yard and cut them up for metal Pick german metal its better like mercedes hoods
Nothing like chopping up a mercedes to fix your thing _________________ 62 sc, 62 SO 34, 61 mango, (2) 67 deluxe in crappy shape, 73 thing, 64 ghia,
and some embarassing bays. shhh, I just use them for storage. (hides)
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wackert Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2005 Posts: 147 Location: Chehalis,WA
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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i bought some sheetmetal to replaces my floors with from a heating place locally. you could try that. |
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surfarii Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2006 Posts: 307 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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titan wrote: |
fenders, body panel and inner rocker repair, possibly some work on the hood. some rust repair and some customizing. When people do this knid of work, where do they get their sheet metal? can i buy the stuff from Lowe's or Home Depot or should I buy random junk yard parts from misc. cars and cut them up? |
Get a set of cheap 15.00$ dial calipers and you can measure the thickness of the metal you are trying to replace. You can find them at places like Harbor Freight or at your local machinist tooling supply . You will want to use cold rolled sheet metal. For material the big box stores are going to be pricey, Look in the phone book under metal. Sometimes scrap metal places are an alternative . A class at your local Junior College will be very helpful. |
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Towel Rail Horizontally Opposed
Joined: April 15, 2005 Posts: 4622 Location: SE CR IA US NA PE
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Sheet metal thicknesses
Front and side outer panels: 0.88mm (0.035")
Rear outer panels: 1.00mm (0.039")
Fenders: 0.88mm (0.035")
Doors and hoods: 0.88mm (0.035")
Interior panels: 0.75 to 1.0mm (0.029-0.039") _________________ 1974 Thing -- under the knife
1967 Beetle -- spring/summer/fall driver
1996 Subaru OBW (EJ22, 5-speed, AWD) -- winter car, 3-seasons "don't feel like biking today" car
049 > 070 > 053 > 009 |
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kubelmann Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2003 Posts: 3266
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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How about if some sheet metal geek out there converts metal thickness into gauge. Such as: 0.88mm (0.035") equals 14 gauge. |
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63single Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2004 Posts: 122 Location: west coast of fla.
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Try this
Gauge (ga)
Standard Steel Thickness (inches)
Galvanized Steel Thickness (inches)
Aluminum Thickness (inches)
3
0.2391
0.2294
4
0.2242
0.2043
5
0.2092
0.1819
6
0.1943
0.1620
7
0.1793
0.1443
8
0.1644
0.1285
9
0.1495
0.1532
0.1144
10
0.1345
0.1382
0.1019
11
0.1196
0.1233
0.0907
12
0.1046
0.1084
0.0808
13
0.0897
0.0934
0.0720
14
0.0747
0.0785
0.0641
15
0.0673
0.0710
0.0571
16
0.0598
0.0635
0.0508
17
0.0538
0.0575
0.0453
18
0.0478
0.0516
0.0403
19
0.0418
0.0456
0.0359
20
0.0359
0.0396
0.0320
21
0.0329
0.0366
0.0285
22
0.0299
0.0336
0.0253
23
0.0269
0.0306
0.0226
24
0.0239
0.0276
0.0201
25
0.0209
0.0247
0.0179
26
0.0179
0.0217
0.0159
27
0.0164
0.0202
0.0142
28
0.0149
0.0187
0.0126
29
0.0135
0.0172
0.0113
30
0.0120
0.0157
0.0100
31
0.0105
0.0142
0.0089
32
0.0097
0.0134
0.0080
33
0.0090
0.0071
34
0.0082
0.0063
35
0.0075
0.0056
36 0.0067
37 0.0064
38
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kubelmann Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2003 Posts: 3266
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Thing Body Part Sheet metal thicknesses
Front and side outer panels: 0.88mm (0.035") 20 gauge
Rear outer panels: 1.00mm (0.039") 19 gauge
Fenders: 0.88mm (0.035") 20 gauge
Doors and hoods: 0.88mm (0.035") 20 gauge
Interior panels: 0.75 to 1.0mm (0.029-0.039") 22 - 19 gauge
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kubelmann Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2003 Posts: 3266
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Thing Body Part Sheet metal thicknesses
Front and side outer panels: 0.88mm (0.035") 20 gauge
Rear outer panels: 1.00mm (0.039") 19 gauge
Fenders: 0.88mm (0.035") 20 gauge
Doors and hoods: 0.88mm (0.035") 20 gauge
Interior panels: 0.75 to 1.0mm (0.029-0.039") 22 - 19 gauge
Additional Metal thicknesses and related gauge
Gauge Standard Steel Thickness (inches) Galvanized Steel Thickness (inches)
Aluminum Thickness (inches)
3 0.2391 0.2294
4 0.2242 0.2043
5 0.2092 0.1819
6 0.1943 0.1620
7 0.1793 0.1443
8 0.1644 0.1285
9 0.1495 0.1532 0.1144
10 0.1345 0.1382 0.1019
11 0.1196 0.1233 0.0907
12 0.1046 0.1084 0.0808
13 0.0897 0.0934 0.0720
14 0.0747 0.0785 0.0641
15 0.0673 0.0710 0.0571
16 0.0598
0.0635 0.0508
17 0.0538 0.0575 0.0453
18 0.0478 0.0516 0.0403
19 0.0418 0.0456 0.0359
20 0.0359 0.0396 0.0320
21 0.0329 0.0366 0.0285
22 0.0299 0.0336 0.0253
23 0.0269 0.0306 0.0226
24 0.0239 0.0276 0.0201
25 .0209 0.0247 0.0179
26 0.0179 0.0217 0.0159
27 0.0164 0.0202 0.0142
28 0.0149 0.0187 0.0126
29 0.0135 0.0172 0.0113
30 0.0120 0.0157 0.0100
31 0.0105 0.0142 0.0089
32 0.0097 0.0134 0.0080
33 0.0090 0.0071
34 0.0082 0.0063
35 0.0075 0.0056
36 0.0067
37 0.0064
38 0.0060 |
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mstatedog Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2003 Posts: 242 Location: East Coast of Mississippi
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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just use 18 gauge you'll be good to go. i got a sheet from a local sheet metal shop... I took a piece of my rocker metal down there and they checked it for me...
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Thingggg Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2004 Posts: 353
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vintagemx0 Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2005 Posts: 427 Location: Portland, Oregon USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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I built a replica kubelwagen one panel at a time using 24 x 36 inch sheets of 20 ga crs from Ace Hardware. At $29 a sheet, it's more expensive than it would have been buying all the material at once from a larger supplier, but I made my car one panel at a time over a two year period. The convienece factor was there for me as I could just stop by Ace on my way home as needed and grab one.
You're going to need to be able to cut your sheet too. I bought some electric shears on E-Bay for like $15 (plus $20 shipping) and just love them. THey do a really nice job and make it possible for me to fab anything from home.
Check my gallery - I hand-fabbed that whole thing with Ace Hardware sheet steel and some pretty simple (crude) tools. You can do anything with steel - it's pretty forgiving to work with. _________________ Where ever you go, there you are. |
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Towel Rail Horizontally Opposed
Joined: April 15, 2005 Posts: 4622 Location: SE CR IA US NA PE
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Wow, let me be the first to swing.
Amazing work there. Are you working from Army capture schematics?
- Scott _________________ 1974 Thing -- under the knife
1967 Beetle -- spring/summer/fall driver
1996 Subaru OBW (EJ22, 5-speed, AWD) -- winter car, 3-seasons "don't feel like biking today" car
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