Pictures of Heb number 3 anyone

[hebman]

Does anybody have pictures of Hebmuller number 3.
And if so how can you tell if its Hebmuller number 3

[Hebster52]

The number 3 had 5 louver on each side of the rear decklid and was painted grey. It also had a chromed popesnose and stock hubcaps. Number 1 and 2 were painted black. Number 2 and 3 were basically indentical except for the colour and some details in the equipments such as the hubcaps and popesnose.

Number 1 was black and had 4 louvers on each side of the decklid.

This is the only photo I have seen of it online. Maybe there still are others out there?

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[Patty B.]

And does anyone know anything about that peddle car to?

[usariemen]

The pic of the little car on the heb was released in a 1952 issue of the "Gute Fahrt" magazin. In an article about the first
100 000 Km meeting in 1952.

Under the pic it says:
Among the lottery prices was this miniatur Volkswagen. The midget test-drivers reported it would be "just great".

My guess is, the little car was a gift of the Hebmüller company to the organisators of the meeting, to be used as one of the tombola prices.
It seems to be brought along on the Heb and as such an early one with a
Rhineland licence plate it is guessable the car was still in the hands of the company in 1952. So they showed up for some promotion and brought this little car along.
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[hebman]

The car in the picture has grooved bumpers.
Should be bannna guards and bumpers.

And what give with the pope nose being chromed??

[hebman]

can someone post pictures of heb 1 and 2 also

[Hebster52]

Heb number 1 had banana bumpers:
(Heb number 1 is the one I'm building a replica of. See some details in the links in my signature. )

And number 2 (and 3) had grooved bumpers.
The number 2 also had special hubcaps only seen on one other beetle sold to the Emperor of Abyssinia. (That split was displayed on the Frankfurt Motor Show in 1951.)

Number 2:

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The 912ST
The KidVRod project
The 356 Pre-A replica,SOLD
The 1966 Kommanderwagen, SOLD
The Doppel -67, SOLD
The Singlecab -72, SOLD

[Wiggy]

[coad]

[Hebster52]

[coad]

[usariemen]

Hello
Here we have this one.

Note the round jack hole, made of a very early car.

Here another view.

And here are two more pics. The first one is quite common.
The second one, most will not know.

Is that the same car with updated rear view mirror?
Same strange hubcaps but on first pics color filled bumper groove and on later pics just chrome.
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[usariemen]

I´m an idiot. I just saw the same licence plate on the pics. The same car!
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[Hebster52]

Yes, I've got those pictures too. Those are all the number 2.

All the three first prototypes are made from -46 sedans that is the reason for the round jackpoint. You can see the special hubcaps in a few of those pictures.

You can also see on the rearview pictures on both the number 1 and 2 that the decklids still have the pre-49 pressing for the licenceplate. Too hard to tell if the number 3 have it or not from the pictures posted here.
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The Hebster52
The 912ST
The KidVRod project
The 356 Pre-A replica,SOLD
The 1966 Kommanderwagen, SOLD
The Doppel -67, SOLD
The Singlecab -72, SOLD

[kdfkid]

Hi Hebster,
i think you are wrong.
Chassis number of Heb Nr. 1 is 908XX and the chassis number of Heb Nr. 2 is 963XX
Heb 1 was black/red and Heb 2 was just black.
So Heb nr. 1 was on a December 1948 chassis wich had round holders for the jack anf Heb 2 was on a Januar 1949 chassis with also round holders.
They were not made out of 1946 cars.
Bye Christian
PS normaly there is no X behind the chassis number - i just adet it so nobady could copy the cars without knowing the real numbers

[usariemen]

Hi Christian
He aint talked about Nr 14-00001 and 14-00002.
He meant the first and the second made prototypes before the body numbers started at the serial type 14 cars.
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[kdfkid]

Hi Carsten,
yes i understand this but from the papers i have in copy i can see that at the 10.02.1949 still no VW Heb was build.
It is written taht VW is waiting for the first prototyp - so i think that even the prototyps were stamped.
Bye Christian
PS It is also written that even to the date 10.02.1949 VW had not given Hebmuller a contract to develope or produce the cars yet

[usariemen]

I thought the very first prototype and maybe also the next ones where made by Hebmüller without any order from Wolfsburg. They developed the cars on their own and hoped for interest from Wolfsburg.
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[Hebster52]

Here's two more photos of the proto number 1

Christian, I guess you have seen these?:
Volkswagen internalreport 14A and 15A

And other documents on Bruce Braun's website:
www.hebmuller.com
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The 912ST
The KidVRod project
The 356 Pre-A replica,SOLD
The 1966 Kommanderwagen, SOLD
The Doppel -67, SOLD
The Singlecab -72, SOLD

[usariemen]

You think the prototypes allready where stamped with 14-00xxx numbers?
I thought this here had been 14-00001 The first serial car. Is there any proof of these theories?

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