Pictures of Heb number 3 anyone

[hebman]

usariemen hebmuller pictures

compare picture 1 to picture 4

side windowframe different
mirror different
rear bumper groove not painted
top boot trimed in white the other one is not

note running board trim it mounted high and its short (same on both)

[hebman]

usariemen picture 4

1948 the dash had one pod in metal with VW logo

picture 4 has a dash pod with clock

I don't think these cars are the same

[hebman]

usariemen picture number 4

Could that be pictures of hebmuller number 4

I have driven heb 5 and been all over heb 6

[Hebster52]

Picture 1 and 4 are still the same car. The sidewindow frame and cabrio was at some point changed to the later style.

And for the dash with clock it is not difficult to update the early dash to later with clock... The pre-46 bodies had a removable dashpod with cogwheel logo too...
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[kdfkid]

Hi Carsten
i have 2 1948 beetle and they both have the round jack whole.
Bye Christian

[usariemen]

I am still not convinced.
Could anybody please tell when exactely the round jack hole changed to square?
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[Genrich]

Usariemen,
New square jack sockets started at chassis # 1-0079649 in 1948. I believe this is late June.
Erich
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[kdf38]

I was just rereading the caption in German and suddenly reallized that
"Dreikäsehohe Testfahrer" translates literally to Three-Cheese-high Testdrivers. That's certainly a very short test driver.

Mike

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[passoa55]

That's a good one!
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1969 original paint Westy
1970 one owner 1300L bug

[erioco]

If you look carefuly you will notice that the pedal car on the back of the Heb, is not a Heb but rather a Karmann vert pedal car. Look at the back end.

Also the info in the docs refed by above from VW about the Heb contract are very interesting about the quantity shipped, and the quantity destroyed by the fire and the reordr of more chassis. That should put the kibosch on the idea of a total of 750 being built. It also shows that the type 18 was either being built very fast vs the Heb type 14, or had been in in active construction for some time before the type 14.

Also of interest is the info on how the type 14s were shipped and the info on the completeness of the body at time of shipment.
This plays to the question on the cool pix and the "vert" line to the right. That may be a line of some kind of 'vert' ie it could be a type 18 line, which used the rear deck lid, or it could be a Karmann vert line, which also used the rear deck, since why only ship one vert in a partial build
and not another?

The Heb type 14 wouldn't need the rear deck or most of the rear end. The docs reffed above on Bruce Brauns site do mention alot of parts shipped loose, not mounted, and chassis and fenders shipped apart from bodies.

So references elsewhere to complete bodies or cars being shipped to Hebmueller or Karmann, and having the roofs cut off there, might refer only to prototypes. It does seem that Hebmuller at least was using older bodies and chassis rather than the latest versions from the daily line, ie cars that still had round jack points, which seem to have been no longer in use after late 48??

VW always was one to save where it could. What better way to use older parts and "archaic" vehicles that may be partially built as shells and as spares.??

Just some ideas
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[Hebster52]

Here it is from the rear.. Looks like a Heb to me..

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The Hebster52
The 912ST
The KidVRod project
The 356 Pre-A replica,SOLD
The 1966 Kommanderwagen, SOLD
The Doppel -67, SOLD
The Singlecab -72, SOLD

[Undis]

That's a great picture Hebster! Wonder how they did the dash? And that looks like a "real" split tail light.

[usariemen]

Nice pic indeed. Where has it been published?
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[Hebster52]

I dont know more about it than that it was posted in a Hebmuller pedalcar thread at www.pre67vw.co.uk.
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The Hebster52
The 912ST
The KidVRod project
The 356 Pre-A replica,SOLD
The 1966 Kommanderwagen, SOLD
The Doppel -67, SOLD
The Singlecab -72, SOLD

[erioco]

OK I'll eat my words Kristian.

Where do you get these pix from ? They are great.

Yes it does look like a Heb to me too. But a bit odd since by then Heb was out of the picture and only left over parts were being assembled by Karmann to finish off the run.

Curious since the Heb never had crotch coolers that I know of.

Eric
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[Hebster52]

Perhaps the same made this too:

This was posted in my KidVrod thread too by mcdronkz. Check the size of that split front compared to the dashpod!
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The Hebster52
The 912ST
The KidVRod project
The 356 Pre-A replica,SOLD
The 1966 Kommanderwagen, SOLD
The Doppel -67, SOLD
The Singlecab -72, SOLD

[usariemen]

[usariemen]

While we are talking about pedal cars. This one would also not be the worst find.

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