Perohaus ?

[53 0val]

Doesn't look Perohaus to me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/vw-Zwitter-oval-bug...0182221847
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[IN2VWS]

X2.

Ford Taunus clock in a repro grill.Definetly not Perohaus, more like a Romanohaus.
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[53 0val]

The difference would be about only about $700. I wonder why he is confused? Probably just an honest mistake.
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[Dave]

The original Perohaus Oval clocks, were wind-up, NOT electric.
I've had 3 or 4 of them, and they were all wind-up clocks, with the winder knob at the bottom of the clock face.
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[53 0val]

Just a little different...........

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/334449.jpg
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[56ovwal]

Clearly it´s not a Perohaus, anyone can see that. Even Romano, but the name "Perohaus" sells, so....
Anyway, what´s the story about this clock ? As I´ve learned it is correct in an early Ford Taunus but is nowadays often sold as a VW-clock. Anyone has a picture of one in a Taunus ? Would it be correct in a Zwitter or Oval bug ? Or in other words, was it ever sold as an accessorie-clock to VW-customers in the late 50´s ?
I have had the electrical 6V clock in my modest "collection" and has the mechanical one at the moment. The one in the ad is a electric 6V "VDO", mine is a mechanical "Köhler" and sometimes I´ve seen them sold as "Jundes" ? Seems like the same story as with the Perohaus/VDO where the Perohaus is of higher quality ?

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[56ovwal]

So VDO made the Köhler-clocks just like they also made the Perohaus ? Is Köhler to Ford-owners what Perohaus is to VW-owners ? A company with various accessories for the Ford market ? Or even the VW-market like for example GHE Happich ? Anyone who has a Köhler-cataloge ?
What about Jundes ? I sometimes see this in eBay- and TheSamba-ads selling theese clocks.
Just want to know the story about my clock...

[coad]

Surprisigly modest of Romano to only claim to be the #2 seller in the world. Wonder who he acknowledges as #1?

[iowegian]

[53 0val]

No, that guy rarely sells...................He just buys.
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[Matts Bug Parts]

At Matt's Parts we only sell correct original oval grill clocks - just because the housing is 80MM does not mean it is a VW clock yet my competitors would have you think that. For some years now most clocks advertised on Samba and eBay are not correct clocks.

Two companies that I know of made correct clocks for ovals with clock faces that match the oval speedometer face: VDO and Kohler.

For Kohler, I have only ever had two. One I sold and one I still have. I also have a Kohler glove box clock with face matching the speedo faces.

VDO - the history as I know it.



The earliest oval grill clocks came out in 1952:--the glass was flat,
--the housing was the deepest so the face could sit lower in the housing held by 3 "long legs" suspended from the housing edge so that clock hands clear the glass
--Numbers and slashes on the faces could have a blue/green tinge to them as opposed to white of the later clocks.
--Hands painted either white or military brown
--Knob is longer than later version
--earlier production has date stamped into the housing. Some later production units are in tachometer housings.

The later versions:
--the glass was curved,
--the housing was shallower and the face is suspended by 3 "short legs" suspended from the housing edge
--the suspension by short legs concept was abandoned in later production units in favour of the face being held to the clockworks by 2 screws-just like speedo faces.
--Numbers and slashes on the faces are white.
--Hands painted either white or military brown
--Knob is shorter than earlier version
--Some have Perohaus at 6 o'clock and VDO at 12 o'clock and some just have VDO at 6 o'clock
--date usually ink stamped on back of housing.

All of the VDO-Perohaus clocks have essentilaly the same clockworks made by Kienzle (There are minor meaningless variances).

I do not know who made the Kohler clockworks but they are TOTALLY different than the Kienzle's in the VDO clocks.

[IN2VWS]

....no comment....

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=535099
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[Matts Bug Parts]

The Kohler clock I have (and have had) has a face matching the VW oval speedo.

In the post above this message there is a link to a Kohler clock that is non VW. WE DO NOT SELL THESE at MATT'S PARTS.

Matthew Ross

[56ovwal]

[Matts Bug Parts]

Here it is: Kohler oval grill clock-picture

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=398091

[IN2VWS]

Thanks Matt. First time I have seen one.
It looks nothing like the Ford Taunus clock.
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[56ovwal]

One of theese Köhler-clocks appeared on German eBay recently :
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&r...amp;ih=009
I didn´t have the cash at the time and I honestly thought it would sell for alot more. I would prefer this Köhler-clock instead of the more known Perohaus just because the seems much rarer.

[IN2VWS]

Kohler also made desk clocks. I just scored this one. It looks like it was a give away item from a VW dealership.

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