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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man that just makes me sick to see that.

More than $50,000 I think...


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, is the shell salvageable when something like this happens?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually not, the heat warps the body panels to the extreme. Rust forms quickly.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, is the shell salvageable when something like this happens?


As I understand it a vehicle with that level of fire damage would likely be a category A write off here in the U.K. Means everything has to be destroyed and can never go back on the road- even if you had the skills and cash to fix it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BusPriest wrote:
So, is the shell salvageable when something like this happens?


Not only can the body panels get warped but the metal changes and becomes weaker.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:29 am    Post subject: Phoenix - A 1971 VW Westie returns from the Ashes Reply with quote

You can achieve a lot with some time and hard work.
We had ALOT of help from the VW community to put it back together.

Phoenix - A 1971 VW Westie returns from the Ashes

We went from this, when we had a fire in my Son's 1971 Baywindow Bus
Here it is in July 2014, every window was smashed, the interior was completely gutted by the fire, even the carb and intakes melted:

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To this (May 2015)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I loved y'all rebuild thread, P&V.
If I remember correctly, you had to buy it back from insurance. When you did this, did it render it having a salvage title?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That yellow bus looks amazing and it is making me re think wanting to stay with pearl white for my 69 Bay.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.mangosmoothie.ca/fire-suppression
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BusPriest wrote:
I loved y'all rebuild thread, P&V.
If I remember correctly, you had to buy it back from insurance. When you did this, did it render it having a salvage title?


That is correct, we had a real battle with the insurance company, they low balled it's value (and I mean really low). Had to get an independent valuer to get it appraised correctly and even then it was a long battle.
The bus now holds a salvaged title and we had to get the usual safety, light and brakes check.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mango-smoothie wrote:
http://www.mangosmoothie.ca/fire-suppression


We now have one of these installed:

http://jogrusa.com/products/blazecut-fire-suppression-system
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peteandvanessa wrote:
BusPriest wrote:
I loved y'all rebuild thread, P&V.
If I remember correctly, you had to buy it back from insurance. When you did this, did it render it having a salvage title?


That is correct, we had a real battle with the insurance company, they low balled it's value (and I mean really low). Had to get an independent valuer to get it appraised correctly and even then it was a long battle.
The bus now holds a salvaged title and we had to get the usual safety, light and brakes check.


And you can not get full coverage with a salvage, right?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BusPriest wrote:
peteandvanessa wrote:
BusPriest wrote:
I loved y'all rebuild thread, P&V.
If I remember correctly, you had to buy it back from insurance. When you did this, did it render it having a salvage title?


That is correct, we had a real battle with the insurance company, they low balled it's value (and I mean really low). Had to get an independent valuer to get it appraised correctly and even then it was a long battle.
The bus now holds a salvaged title and we had to get the usual safety, light and brakes check.


And you can not get full coverage with a salvage, right?


Well if you mean the current insurance and with it being a salvage title, then yes, we have full coverage on the Bus. It's insured with American Modern for an agree value of $15,000.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:57 pm    Post subject: Help Needed PLZ - new to VW's and this post is scary!!! Reply with quote

After reading this post I decided to check out my new van - 1979 Single Bay Westfalia w/ 2000cc engine.

WOW - I am so glad I did - because it breaks every rule. I am worried because I am a complete NOOB Rolling Eyes and this is my first van.

Can anyone help me PLZ?? Here's what I found.

Plastic fuel filter inline **after** the pump in the engine bay
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THIS I NEED HELP WITH THIS - WHAT IS IT?
This thing sits after the fuel filter before the line to the single carb- It has two outlets - one which is blocked off.
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Here's a look top down
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Here's the back of it.
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Finally - I see the fuel line entering the bay without a rubber grommet - at least I think that this is the fuel line?
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I was thinking that I order a kit from German Supply - but given the set up I was not so sure it would fit?

What steps would you guys recommend I take to make the van safer from spontaneous combustion?

Thanks for any help - I am a complete beginner with little experience - but wish to learn if anyone could be kind enough to point me in the right direction.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't waste your time or money on Germansupply. Get some Gatesbarricade, new fuel filter and a rubber grommet for any areas where a hose passes threw sheet metal. relocate the filter pre fuel pump and out of the engine bay.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think your mystery object is a transfer valve usually used with a dual tank system on trucks. In your case it may be being used as a fuel cutoff.

Yes relocate your fuel filter to before the pump. I like metal filters myself, you can probably screw a Ford style filter right into the inlet of your pump.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you guys (curtis4085 & Wildthings) I will relocate the parts as mentioned and will buy some Gatesbarricade - thanks a lot - better safe than sorry.

The help is really appreciated - Daily Oliver (Sooke BC)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

curtis4085 wrote:
Don't waste your time or money on Germansupply. Get some Gatesbarricade, new fuel filter and a rubber grommet for any areas where a hose passes threw sheet metal. relocate the filter pre fuel pump and out of the engine bay.


I notice that Germansupply quotes 7mm for (1979 Westfalia 2000cc single carb engine) - do you know what the correct size (part # ref) Gatesbarricade to use?

Thanks again for your help.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5/16" is as close as Gates gets.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Randy, does anyone around us sell that gates hose? I need to do that as well, amongst the thousand other things.
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