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alright ive searched a few different key words and have failed to come up with a definitive answer.
did early kombis only come with one white pinstripe on the beltline bulge only? i have seen some early standard with a stripe on the beltline and beneath.
what is the approx width of the stripe and how high is it above the lower beltline/body crease?
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I have mine measured at about 1/4" from the bottom of the belt-line crease, to the bottom of the pin stripe. The pin stripe is about 1/8" wide.
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Not sure if this will help since I have a standard...
I have mine measured 1/2 an inch from the beltline crease to the top of the pin stripe and the stripe is 1/8.
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thank you!
gotta pull out my long sword striper.
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Here's an original paint 57 kombi I picked up earlier this year. It has the strongest pinstripe I've seen on a dove blue bus:
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Hmm, not trying to discredit you, but that white stripe looks AWFULLY suspicious. The stripe is too high on the belt line, and EVERY original paint bus I have seen has the stripe worn off long before the paint underneath it. How is the stripe still present where the blue has faded off to primer on the nose and passenger side?
can we get some close up photos of the stripe? size? brush strokes? Even on Gibbs' standard shown above that has EXCELLENT original paint, the pinstripe is wearing off, showing thickness variations.
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Here's a pop quiz, does anyone know what color paint code the white pinstripe was on dove blue kombi's?? I was looking through some of the vintage paint literature (Thanks Lenny Copp!) and I noticed it shows, what I believe to be the pinstripe color (possibly early only?). The interesting part is what looks to be dealer handwriting refering to it as L80 which is not on any color charts I have seen. It also looks like more of blue/grey. Or is it all a big misunderstanding and it's really L82 Silver white?
The same literature calls out all the other colors correctly including the colors for the two tone grey L22 /L23 (L23 is also not on the chart!) I am not sure which numbers on this one is refering to the pinstripe. 304? L103? (sp?)
If anyone has more info on this I would love to hear it! It also reinforces that panels did not get the pin stripe
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well, the super low mileage (1,200 miles) 57 kombi I looked at had a perfect pinstripe. When looking at the nose near the bumper, the stripe and the bumper ribs looked identical. Are dove blue pressed bumper ribs Silverwhite? If so, I would say that particular bus had matching bumper/stripe paint.
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Hmm, not trying to discredit you, but that white stripe looks AWFULLY suspicious. The stripe is too high on the belt line, and EVERY original paint bus I have seen has the stripe worn off long before the paint underneath it. How is the stripe still present where the blue has faded off to primer on the nose and passenger side?
can we get some close up photos of the stripe? size? brush strokes? Even on Gibbs' standard shown above that has EXCELLENT original paint, the pinstripe is wearing off, showing thickness variations. |
Well, not knowing much about the bus's first 50 years anything could have happened.
First thing to note is this is a South African bus, made in Hannover and assembled in SA. It would have been painted in SA, so maybe the local pinstripes were placed slightly differently.
This is also the only pinstripe era dove blue bus I have seen where the pinstripe was not worn out before the blue paint, but I had always thought the stripes wore off because of polishing, not UV damage. I'd guess that the dove blue is more susceptible to UV than the white pinstripe.
The person I bought the bus from said he found it in a scrapyard in a semi-desert area of SA. It had been completely stripped for parts many years ago and was in use as the scrapyard owner's "office". The guy I bought it from had also owned it for many years, but he kept it under cover.
I'll take some close-up pics in two weeks time when I will be back home after another road trip. I very much doubt the pinstripe has ever been touched up and I'm satisfied it's original. I'll also take some comparative pics of another 57/58 dove blue bus to compare the position of SA pinstripes.
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fig,thats a very cool bus,but that pinstripe is well......seriously suspect,why is it as clear as day even where the dove blue is gone? the only answer i can come up with that makes it the original untouched pinstripe is that the pinstripe paint on that bus is a different compound of paint.....very cool bus though,i can get a pic of my wolfsburg 56 kombis pinstripe if'n ya need sled
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| fig,thats a very cool bus,but that pinstripe is well......seriously suspect,why is it as clear as day even where the dove blue is gone? the only answer i can come up with that makes it the original untouched pinstripe is that the pinstripe paint on that bus is a different compound of paint.....very cool bus though,i can get a pic of my wolfsburg 56 kombis pinstripe if'n ya need sled |
Something else to note: the rearmost cargo door is not original to this bus, as the original was removed when it was in the scrapyard, and you can see the current rear cargo door is more heavily weathered than the rest of the bus. BUT, the "new" door still has a pinstripe that is stronger than the remaining blue. I stand by my theory that pinstripes wore away from polishing, not UV damage.
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how about some close up shots then?.............
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I'm as intrigued as you all are. But, as I said, I'm about to leave on holiday and I won't see this bus for the next few weeks.
I'll take close-up pics when I'm back. In the meantime, keep this thread alive until then. 
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on my 53, also a desert bus, it's bare metal in areas and you can still see the pinstripe. there are three types of paint. the primer, which seems to be the toughest paint, the cellulose paint which is the weakest and the striping paint which, my guess is lead based enamel.
i'm with fig in that the stripes wear off due to polishing.
not the best picture of the stripes because i took this picture to show the difference of exposed and not exposed areas but you can see a glimpse of the pinstriping. i'll look for a better picture later.
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Here's another South African pinstripe 57/58 kombi. Most of the pinstripe is worn away, but there's a section on the lower nose where the stripe is strong over a patch where the paint has worn down to primer.
I will get close-ups of this as well when I'm back.
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FWIW, here are the most detailed pics I have of the pinstripe:
The cargo door on the right is not original to this bus; its pinstripe is also strong over badly weathered dove blue:
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8k miles og paint Kombi for reference from the gallery
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