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sy_kate
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 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject: *Update* New information on Aero Papyrus material |
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On the orig aero papyrus seat covers were there heat welds or tucks sewn into the white part? I've looked in the gallery but can't tell from the pictures. Also do the heat welds or tucks go all the way from top to bottom of seat or just part of the way. Thanks Kate
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Stanagon
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Douglas Denlinger
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Kate,
Just looked at a seat yesterday.....the pleats are heated, not sewn. They stop about 2 inches from the skirt/piping.
I hope that helps.
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sy_kate
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Appreciate the help, thanks Kate |
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Firecrusader
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Do you have something in the works??
Are you, or a upholstery shop trying to repop these with the correct color materials ?? |
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sy_kate
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After an extensive search for either the orig or a close match to the aero papyrus interior, I have found what I think is the closest match I'm going to find without having a custom run done. Here is what I have found
The biggest problem with this (or any other vinyl) is that vinyl generally comes in a 54" width, and full width seats, like mine are 57" or 58" plus a seam allowance. The vinyl has the ribs running down the length of the roll of fabric. So in order to have the full seat covered either a seam has to be made (not so good). Or you could do an insert, sort of like what my seat has now, but of the same fabric, not a contrast
Let me know what you think of the match. I think it looks pretty good, although not the orig but much better than what I have now. I will be happy to let you know the supplier, after I place my order.  |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| The white looks nice.....just need to screenprint those blue lines in the grooves. |
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Walk Thru KO
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| How many folks would be willing to chip in some $ to have a custom run of an exact match of the Aero papyrus material manufactured? |
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Firecrusader
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It looks pretty close, as close to anything I have been looking at.
As far as interest, I am interested in a very nice close match. I just ordered TMI Mesh Grey/Grey seat covers and panels through WW and payed $1600++ 
Let me know |
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Aiko
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| How many folks would be willing to chip in some $ to have a custom run of an exact match of the Aero papyrus material manufactured? |
"Exact match" would be a subject of debate in my opinion unless you are using an original NOS seat cover that has never seen the light of day or been exposed to elements. I have seen the OG color vary from bus to bus. A few attempts at color matching off used material resulted in an off color which leaned more toward Aqua/Green and then to the metallic Steel Blue type color. I have OG Aero Papyrus interior and even mine has subtle color tone differences and faded in various areas. Someday I will need to re-do mine so I would still be interested in pursuing an "exact match" or damn close in the future.
Lenny at WCC made a run of material for A/P replacements but his version is too Blue and not very close to OG. He did say that if I give him a small piece of my "clean/solid/unfaded" material as a sample, he could look into it deeper or possibly have it made if it was really close. Luckily, I do have some small pieces of spare material in both the A/P and ribbed White that I need to clean up and examine to see if its worth using as a potential match. Problem is, who's current fade/color should be the benchmark for bulk repro material? I'm still in the opinion that a true match will only come from someone's attic seat or NOS cover. Either way, its going to expensive to say the least. Heat laminated !!! |
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j.pickens
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Your material looks as good as any I've seen available.
Since you probably can't do heat seams anyway, I'd just hide the sewn seam by sewing in pleats. If you get a good shop to sew them, you'll never tell the difference between the pleats and the seam.
You could even do the asymetrical pleat pattern like the earlier seats to hide the seam even more.
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sy_kate
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| Do you have a picture of the seats, with asymetrical seams? |
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ozinbc
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject: re aero papyrus |
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The 2 rear seats on my bus were covered their entire bus life. I will dig em out and take photos - tho cant see myself taking any material from them!
Would of course be interested in any repro that is close as I need to recover the drivers seat!
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Walk Thru KO
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Aiko wrote: |
| Walk Thru KO wrote: |
| How many folks would be willing to chip in some $ to have a custom run of an exact match of the Aero papyrus material manufactured? |
"Exact match" would be a subject of debate in my opinion unless you are using an original NOS seat cover that has never seen the light of day or been exposed to elements. I have seen the OG color vary from bus to bus. A few attempts at color matching off used material resulted in an off color which leaned more toward Aqua/Green and then to the metallic Steel Blue type color. I have OG Aero Papyrus interior and even mine has subtle color tone differences and faded in various areas. Someday I will need to re-do mine so I would still be interested in pursuing an "exact match" or damn close in the future.
Lenny at WCC made a run of material for A/P replacements but his version is too Blue and not very close to OG. He did say that if I give him a small piece of my "clean/solid/unfaded" material as a sample, he could look into it deeper or possibly have it made if it was really close. Luckily, I do have some small pieces of spare material in both the A/P and ribbed White that I need to clean up and examine to see if its worth using as a potential match. Problem is, who's current fade/color should be the benchmark for bulk repro material? I'm still in the opinion that a true match will only come from someone's attic seat or NOS cover. Either way, its going to expensive to say the least. Heat laminated !!! |
OK granted Exact Match is going a bit far but I bet there are many forum members that would love to have a "Very Close Match and better that they have ever been able to fine before, match" of this material!!!
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Your material looks as good as any I've seen available................
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I agree. A lot of people have tried unsuccessfully to match the Aero papyrus and what Kate has found thus far looks real good and I believe she is going to pursue a 'custom run' with a contact she has for an even better match!!! Keep up the work Kate!! |
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Walk Thru KO
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: Aero Papyrus / Steel Upholstery Material - UPDATE!!! |
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Update..........
OK I need a commitment from some folks here. I have found an american manufacturer that will work with me to reproduce both the Steel and the Aero Papyrus material in a very accurate copy, my contact says that he will be able to do an exact match.
All you fellow veedubbers who have wanted to get the Aero papyrus White/Steel Blue reproduced for the '66 - '67 Sea Blue/Cumulus White buses this is our chance!!!
What I want is an idea of how many folks would purchase the bulk material if it were available in this very accurate match.
Approximately, it takes -
Seating Upholstery:
(5) yards of the solid Steel material and (3) yards of the striped Aero Papyrus material to do a complete set of seats.
Interior Panels:
(6) yards of the solid Steel material and (4) yards of the striped Aero Papyrus material to do a complete set panels.
Total for a complete bus interior resto:
(11) yard of the solid Steel
(7) yards of the striped Aero Papyrus
Please, let me know how many yards you would probably purchase assuming you were pleased with the accuracy of the reproduction.
- Pricing is estimated in the $50 per yard range
- Please realize this is bulk material only that will need to be sewn into the fitted seat patterns and cut/fitted to the interior panels unlike the TMI, Sewfine, and WCC products that are finished and ready to install. But currenly neither of these suppliers offer a real Steel/Aero match.
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j.pickens
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| Do you have a picture of the seats, with asymetrical seams? |
I know this is a revived thread, but I missed answering this question.
Here's a photo. You can see the wide strips in both the middle and rear seats, and the larger gap at each end.
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Walk Thru KO
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| sy_kate wrote: |
| Do you have a picture of the seats, with asymetrical seams? |
I know this is a revived thread, but I missed answering this question.
Here's a photo. You can see the wide strips in both the middle and rear seats, and the larger gap at each end.
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Thanks. Actually with this custom run on the Aero Papyrus White material I have specified the blue-striped heat seams running the 55" width of the material so no problem with reproducing a seat cover just like this original:
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ozinbc
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:52 am Post subject: aero papyrus |
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I'll be in for a complete bus! the whole 9 yards!
OK - so its a little more!
Steve |
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Walk Thru KO
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| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Bump.........
So let me get this right, there is only one person (thanks ozinbc) that is interested in the opportunity to get the Steel blue/Aero Papyrus white reproduced? |
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sapper6
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| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I am definately interested in getting this material reproduced. Put me in for an interior's worth. |
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