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mark tucker Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:27 am Post subject: |
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description isant a good thing to go for.kinda like a free dating service,you may not get what you think your getting. I would try to stay with the recommended oil found hear in this thread. I remember almost 30 years back lotsa issues with redline 2stroke oil in jetskis.when I finly got them to try the yamahalube issues went away. |
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vwbusman66 Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2014 Posts: 386 Location: Kingsville, MD
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:31 am Post subject: |
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ok so what am I supposed to use on a redux transmission? I didn't feel like reading through 45 pages of debate. (Lind, clara, everett, eric and barb, now is the time to chime in! )
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69733 Location: Phoenix Metro
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MrPolak Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2004 Posts: 1336 Location: AG ,atnaltA
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:56 am Post subject: |
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I just picked up GL-4 Sta-Lube gear oil from Napa. It's the correct old school stuff. Not cheap, either as I could have filled it with synthetic for that money. |
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Quokka42 Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2010 Posts: 3117 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Supply Vs Demand.
There's only 45 pages of commentary here if you want some opinions (and the occasional fact.) Be grateful you didn't come here looking for advice on engine oil!
Some pay a fortune for old single grade oil because it's "period correct." _________________ There has only ever been one man who was perfect, and they nailed Him to a cross. |
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Bruce Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Quokka42 wrote: |
Some pay a fortune for old single grade oil because it's "period correct." |
I wonder where those dummies are getting period correct fuel? _________________
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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5446 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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gears wrote: |
Glenn wrote: |
When i got my tranny back from Gary Berg he specifically said not to use Red Line and he will not warranty any parts if i did. |
My list of poor choices includes Redline and the above spam oil. |
Why not Redline? My transaxle is full of their GL-4 oil and has been for 15 years. The "Transform" transaxle in it has been working for 20 years (the first 5 with GL-4 dino oil.) _________________
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As a general rule, cheap parts are the most expensive parts you can buy. |
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wrocek Samba Member
Joined: June 08, 2013 Posts: 397 Location: North Illinois
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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There is no GL-4 any more, at least here, in Chicagoland.
I've been to bunch of stories today
O'Reillies, AutoZone, Advanced, Walmart, Menards, Pep Boys
None of them has GL-4 transmission oil.
Visited Jiffy Lube around the corner. They did not help me as well.
There is a bunch of oils an shelf saying: "Meets or exceeds API GL-4, GL-5 and MT-1, MACK GO-J, SAE J2360 specifications "
Any suggestion what I can buy, as of May 2015?
Is there on that link any tans fluid I can use on my BUG
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69733 Location: Phoenix Metro
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marco_lh Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Montreal, Qc, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:31 am Post subject: Answer from Swepco rep |
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I wrote to Swepco to know what they would recommend between the SWEPCO 717 SYNCROMESH and SWEPCO 201.
I also asked him if the 201 would attack the synchro.
Here is answer:
Thank you for your inquiry. The SWEPCO 201 80W90 will not attact the bronze in your transmission and will be safe to use. Pleaee let us know if you have further questions.
John
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:09 am Post subject: |
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have any of you guys that have been in transmissions notic the syncros are almost always dull&look like they have been diped or cleaned with a acidic cleaner at some point?Ive never put in new syncros or seen new syncros that look like that. is this what you guys are talking about?I thought that was just plain old tarnishing like moms shiney brass shit&real silverware. or are they realy going away? |
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15280 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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The tarnish or discoloration will make no difference. The only thing that matters is how much the part wears out. I would continue using the Original German syncro's if they are not worn out before I'd use new Brazilian syncro's
It is just silly how many people can't understand GL-5 will not hurt your VW transaxle and is fine. All I use is the Valvoline Durablend Semi-synthetic blend 80W-90 in the Blue bottle. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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phorce1 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2004 Posts: 54 Location: Texas, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:52 am Post subject: |
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gears wrote: |
I have to hand it to Redline Corporation for their honesty .. after decades of recommending their excellent GL-4 oils for use in VW vans, they've backed away from their recommendation. Here are two of the bullets on their web page:
* Excellent gear and synchro protection, balanced slipperiness for easier shifting in cold climates
* MTL, MT-85 & MT-90 are not for use in differentials with hypoid gears |
Crap, when did they add that? I bought a case of MT-90 back in '05 and put it in my current ('70) transaxle in '10. I was poking around today to figure out what to refill my steering box with when I saw this.
{sigh} _________________ TCB
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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ive been using penzoil marine gearlube.I havent seen any lube related issues. execpt for trans that already had bearing noises when I put them in(1 dead pinion bearing&1 dead ms bearing) and no clue if the lube had ever been changed when I got the trans. the only thing i dont like is the lube dosent climb. Im still wondering if some camshield zinc addtive would help with these trans and the much added hp were putting through them. |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:15 am Post subject: |
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phorce1 wrote: |
gears wrote: |
I have to hand it to Redline Corporation for their honesty .. after decades of recommending their excellent GL-4 oils for use in VW vans, they've backed away from their recommendation. Here are two of the bullets on their web page:
* Excellent gear and synchro protection, balanced slipperiness for easier shifting in cold climates
* MTL, MT-85 & MT-90 are not for use in differentials with hypoid gears |
Crap, when did they add that? I bought a case of MT-90 back in '05 and put it in my current ('70) transaxle in '10. I was poking around today to figure out what to refill my steering box with when I saw this.
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The horses mouth:
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=46
MTL in particular has given problems. |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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so... does that make them liable ......... oh cheezzee hear we go!!!!! |
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LivinInnaVWBus Samba Member
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Hey guys! What do you know of Valvoline VV831? I know little about gear oil and I bought/filled my trans with it based on a recommendation. Upon further investigation, I may have been misguided.
Valvoline recommends a different lube but wont tell me if it will be sufficient. I've had it in for 10 miles, suggestions? |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:50 am Post subject: |
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LivinInnaVWBus wrote: |
Hey guys! What do you know of Valvoline VV831? I know little about gear oil and I bought/filled my trans with it based on a recommendation. Upon further investigation, I may have been misguided.
Valvoline recommends a different lube but wont tell me if it will be sufficient. I've had it in for 10 miles, suggestions? |
Check out the asterisk at the bottom of this page.
http://content.valvoline.com/pdf/high_performance_gear.pdf |
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LivinInnaVWBus Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Wildthings wrote: |
LivinInnaVWBus wrote: |
Hey guys! What do you know of Valvoline VV831? I know little about gear oil and I bought/filled my trans with it based on a recommendation. Upon further investigation, I may have been misguided.
Valvoline recommends a different lube but wont tell me if it will be sufficient. I've had it in for 10 miles, suggestions? |
Check out the asterisk at the bottom of this page.
http://content.valvoline.com/pdf/high_performance_gear.pdf |
Hm, I called Rancho, they said to run it and stated so long as it is a non-synthetic 80w90 hypoid, it will work just fine and anyone saying different is trying to sell you something. I mentioned the synchromesh, and he reiterated the above statement. |
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mrcool Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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This is an exhausting read.
I was finally convinced its ok to move to synthetic. not entirely convinced on how to pick the correct GL5 yet.
What is an acceptable sulfur content for GL-5?
Valvoline VV831 has how much?
I did not see that the MSDS report had this info but I now know a fathead minnow can live in water for at least 96 hours with a concentration of 100mg/l of this oil in it. |
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