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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Anyone seen these baby moon's in person? Reply with quote

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemBrowse/c-10...5410008333

Yeah it's from JC Whitney, but so far they're the only ones I've seen selling a 15x5 with this look. Anyone seen these in person? Anyone have a pic of them on their car OR problems putting them on a super beetle?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those do look good, don't they? I haven't seen them anywhere else. I am curious too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hard to tell by the pic, I looked under a few other VW websites and could not find these, the other oddball thing to mention is if I search for standard beetle on their site I find them, if I look for super (same year) it won't show them to me. Both have the same offset so what's the difference? I've never ordered anything from them other then wire or a speaker, I know the quality of other items they sale is bad.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in talking with the live chat on their website she said the manufact lists the backspacing as 3.75" I've asked she confirm the bolt pattern. Is 3.75" a lot? thats like 95mm right?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Super and Standard 4 bolts wheels are the same pattern, Checked CIP1 and got this for a stock type wheel
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ACC-C10-6623 - GENUINE MANGEL CHROME 4 BOLT STEEL WHEEL 15 X 5 1/2 ( 3-3/4 INCH BACK SPACING)


Personally, I think JCW is similar to many suppliers, they sell the cheap crap that many want because all they are looking for is a low price, but they also look like they have some good stuff too (Scat, Bugpack, etc). I suspect that these wheels will have the same prob that a lot of the aftermarket wheels do - they will want to rust at some of the seams. I am just guessing on this.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.customwheelsdirect.com/wheels_brand/wheel_detail.php?id=35788

In talking to the jc helpline I found the co that makes the wheels. If you go back to that site the picture changes. Also if you order straight from this site you get lugnuts and shipping for free.

Any thoughts on if they are a shame or not?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andk5591 wrote:
Super and Standard 4 bolts wheels are the same pattern, Checked CIP1 and got this for a stock type wheel
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ACC-C10-6623 - GENUINE MANGEL CHROME 4 BOLT STEEL WHEEL 15 X 5 1/2 ( 3-3/4 INCH BACK SPACING)


Personally, I think JCW is similar to many suppliers, they sell the cheap crap that many want because all they are looking for is a low price, but they also look like they have some good stuff too (Scat, Bugpack, etc). I suspect that these wheels will have the same prob that a lot of the aftermarket wheels do - they will want to rust at some of the seams. I am just guessing on this.


I have owned two sets of these--one set I bought brand new and never really allowed them to be exposed to weather. The other set, however, I bought used from a samba advertiser and they were rusty and flaking-off chrome--I did not inquire as to what type of exposure they saw, as I was planning to blast and paint them, which I did. I *suspect* they'll probably rust just as fast as any other aftermarket chromed steel wheel.

I like them because they're unique. However, they also stick pretty far out when they're on the car...a look that eventually I got tired of. I'm back to stock wheels now--VW had it right all along...

P.S.: Be aware that the hubcaps these wheels use are not VW-type hubcaps--VW hub caps will *not* work with them.

P.P.S.: I used them on a stock '68 Standard Bug, 4-bolt, but I suspect they'd work on a Super Beetle also...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a pic in your gallery Stock Steve, of a wheel that looked close to what I was showing and you painted them, is that a pic of these rims?

What did you do with the other set? Still have them?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where these it?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For comparison: If the wheels are 5" wide, the over all width would be 6". With the backspacing at 3.75" the wheels would stick 2.25" off the bolt plain. They would stick out 1/4" less than a set of Empi's or Rivieras. Personally, I might consider running them on my car since it's a '65 on a '73 pan. That way I'd still have the smoothie look.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jashv wrote:
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Where these it?


Yeah, that was the set that I blasted and painted (red). They're long-gone now--sold 'em on the samba of course! You see them occasionally come up for sale though--keep your eyes open, and/or post a 'wanted' ad in the wheels & tires section.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here they are on the car, with 175/65R15 Pirellis and Atlas port-a-walls. In the rear view shot you can see they are a little stick-outy...and perhaps the fat tires accentuate that a bit. I presently have the same tires on some Porsche 914 styled steel wheels (5.5" wide @ ET40, I think), and they sit very nicely inside the wheelwells. Anyway, good luck and have fun!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve - your car looks great! - What width are those wheels though?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve, you mentioned the caps were not a stock VW size, do you have shots of the painted rim with the caps or did you loose them before you painted them? Do you remember how far off from a beetle cap they were? I was wondering if a good metal fabricator could not "massage" stock caps into the correct size.

I think I still like them for the smoothie look, just wish I could find the set cheaper.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andk55: They're 5" wide

jashv: I never got caps with the used/rusty ones that I red-did--nor did I care, since I was more into an "industrial" sort of look, with the exposed chrome lug bolts.

The caps these wheels use are much smaller than VW caps. If you scan around the Coker web site, there are caps they sell there that *appear* like they might work with these wheels--but this is is only a *guess* on my part...
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