Is a Bentley available?

19super73 · Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:08 am Post subject: Is a Bentley available?

I picked up this 412 in early November. I am still wondering if I want to get it running or keep it. I managed to aquire a Clymer manual but Clymer leaves much to be desired. Is a Bentley manual available and if so, can I expect to be robbed if I want to buy one?
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Wildthings · Samba Member Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 20155

No Bentley available for the T4 to the best of my knowledge. The Bentley for the 68-79 bus will cover the engine for you and the Bentley for the T3 will cover the automatic.

I have a Haynes that covers the just the T4 and several other manual that I picked up on eBay that do a good job as well.

19super73 · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:43 am Post subject:

I was kind of afraid that that would be the answer. I would have thought that VW would produce something for this car. No, it wasn't a huge seller but still...
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KTPhil · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject:

Clymer made a T4 manual, too. The usual Clymer "quality" but it should have photos and specs that would be useful.

Mike Fisher · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject:

Check out books4cars.com & Amazon.com for used T4 Manuals.

ALLWAGONS · Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:00 am Post subject:

I have an Intereurope, a Drake, a Haynes and of course a VW shop manual. If you need info on a particular subject email me direct don't pm me. I'll gladly scan or give you the pertinent info.
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reluctantartist · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:54 am Post subject:

Has anyone bought the bentley eBahn download? I am curious to know if it is worth it for a 1974 412. The clymer, haynes, and russek leave a lot to be desired....maybe I am spoiled by actually having a real repair manual for my vanagon. Since I don't have any of the other vehicles the pdf manual covers I want to make sure it is worth while for the 412. If it leaves out information like the others then I will pass. What would it take to get the VW shop manual?
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raygreenwood · Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:29 am Post subject:

A very good book that helps fill a few small but important gaps is the "without guesswork" booklet. It actually has a few measurements like for the transmission parts....that the other books are missing.

Long ago...like high school.....I think I had at least some goodly portion of the factory shop manual.
I have never seen another since. If the Ebahn download is affordable, I may buy it.

The vast majority of what I am bringing forward for the drive train alignment is actually contained in the combination of Clymer, Haynes and Chiltons manuals for type 4 (all except the shims for the bell housing hanger bar....those I had to find out for myself). But none of it is all in one manual, a few nuggets are in the Chiltons VW 1949-1971 manual which covers types 1through 4 and a few points are found not even where you would expect them to be within the manual. This is why you really need to read these manuals from front to back carefully. Ray

glutamodo · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:09 am Post subject:

I have this factory book, but it predates the 412. I mention it to say that there are type 4 dealership manuals out there, if you keep looking.

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raygreenwood · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:34 am Post subject:

Yes.....there are...and I'm looking! There are a couple of ex dealership types I have met that have part of it. Ray

19super73 · Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:10 am Post subject:

glutamodo · Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:16 am Post subject:

No, that's a Workshop Manual.

Without Guesswork is just a small booklet of specifications.

Mike Fisher · Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:30 am Post subject:

www.books4cars.com has a used Autopress manual for a 411, that I'll bet nobody here has?
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Tram · Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject:

I have the old dealership Type 4 spare parts book plus a late Type 3 and Type 4 body repair/ paint manual, and D-jet Type 3 and 4 fuel systems manuals, if anyone* needs something scanned.

*Anyone except 19super73, of course, since he's an insulting nit who is easily tracked. Very Happy

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19super73 · Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:14 am Post subject:

Tram · May 4, 1970... Never Forget.

Bobnotch · Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:35 am Post subject:

Randall · Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:39 pm Post subject:

I know where lots of Bentleys are available. They don't come cheap though. Razz

buy a Bentley

Seriously folks, you can purchase a downloadable efile from Bentley Publishers for $110., but you're also buying the info for the Type 1, 2, & 3.
http://www.bentleypublishers.com/volkswagen/repair...ebahn.html

You would want to thoroughly read this page, which is also linked from the above page, explaining computer system compatability: https://wiki.bentleypublishers.com/display/faqs/System+Requirements
There seems to be contradictory information, such as "Vista not supported" and "64 bit installations are not supported" yet the link at the bottom of the page that reads "Windows 7, Vista and XP Compatibility" seems to say otherwise. Caveat emptor.

raygreenwood · Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:11 pm Post subject:

The point we are asking about though...is whether the information in a bentley that has the type 4 in it...is complete. Bentley never published a stand alone book for the type 4.

There is virtually nothing useful for the type 4 in type 1,2,3 literature. The money is not the issue. I just do not want to spend a chunk of money and get a sketchy "chilton-esque" rendition of type 4.....that is otherwise mostly types 1,2 and 3...which are worthless to me. Ray

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