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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:19 am    Post subject: Porsche 356 engine in a Manx... Reply with quote

I recently picked up a Manx with a Porsche 356 engine in it. The engine doesn't run, but it is free and turns over by hand, so it is rebuildable. My question is, would it be smarter to replace the engine with a VW engine, or use the Porsche. I realize parts for the Porsche will be a little more pricey, don't really care about that, just want to end up with a reliable daily driver when I'm done. I'd also like to keep the car as original as I can, and the Porsche engine has been in the car from the day it was build, so that makes me want to use it. What do you guys think?...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it's true, it really exists: a Manix with a Porch engine!!! Please post pictures to lay this myth to rest!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Myth??Here you go...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please don't take it the wrong way, I was simply trying to be funny...

I was only making reference to Murzi's ever too famous comment:
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must be a manix with a "porch" engine ...my brother in law had one in the 70's ...would pull wheelies in third gear


I've heard this comment way too often, I had no doubt that yours really had a 356 engine!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No offence taken, knew you were joking...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First thing I would do is contact the Meyers company and see if there is any significant history on that buggy.

That 356 A engine is cool, but they can be expensive to rebuild....$300 for a big bore kit, $350 for a set of main bearings ect...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That'll be a sweet ride when you get it going. Just move the gas filler. I always think they look odd like that.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the engine gasket set for a 356 motor runs about $85!! Compare that to $8-$10 for a VW Type one motor.

Still, if it's original I'd suck it up and rebuild the Porsche motor.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the cost of properly rebuilding that 70-90hp 356 engine you can build a brand new 140hp Type 1 engine that will be very reliable.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For the cost of properly rebuilding that 70-90hp 356 engine you can build a brand new 140hp Type 1 engine that will be very reliable.


I totally agree, and this is coming from someone who has 2 356 engines in my care and a basketcase Super 90 that needs to be built. HOWEVER there is something familiar about that "Powered by Porsche" graphic on the rear deck. I'd really research the history of that buggy before I'd start changing too many things on it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I plan on researching the cars history before I change anthing, and if the engine can be a reliable engine, I'd rather stay with that engine, cost of rebuilding is not an issue.

"Move the gas fill"...Never!!! I don't want to cut the body at all, gotta keep it there. The fiberglass is in good shape, just needs paint....

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd fill it in and put the tank in the back or relocate the filler in the center. IMHO Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That one has some great history. You should restore it as you got it, gold flake body(?), Porsche engine, sidewinder exhaust, beetle seats, white steering wheel, white top and "Powered by Porsche" logo and all. You get that Porsche engine rebuilt right, I'm sure it will take you as fast as you probably want to go.

Besides the Car&Driver, DB&HVW cover car, James Garner raced a Porshe powered Manx in the first Mint 400.

If its gonna be repainted, I would also move the fuel filler to the rear center of the tank though, besides looking a lot better, its safer. Is that an Eelco or an Enots filler? I'd remove the VW turn signals on top of the fenders and use Lucas L488's on the front fender edges . I'd add a chrome 64-66 VW license light in back. If you can't find a set of finned aluminum 356 brakes, a set of 4 discs would be a good move too.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BL3Manx wrote:
That one has some great history. You should restore it as you got it, gold flake body(?), Porsche engine, sidewinder exhaust, beetle seats, white steering wheel, white top and "Powered by Porsche" logo and all. You get that Porsche engine rebuilt right, I'm sure it will take you as fast as you probably want to go.

I would also move the fuel filler to the rear center of the tank though, its safer. Is that an Eelco or an Enots filler? I'd remove the VW turnsignals on top of the fenders and use Lucas L488's on the front fender edges . I'd add a chrome 64-66 VW license light in back. If you can't find a set of finned aluminum 356 brakes, a set of 4 discs would be a good move too.


Solid wheels widened and powdercoated white with trim rings and moon hubcaps!!!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want one that looks like this
http://www.manxclub.com/botm-3-06/botm-3-06-4.htm

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised no body has asked this yet, but I'm dying to know what the purchase price was. Did you get a good deal on this history book?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I recall - it was like $250
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I paid $250.00 for it, I found it on the Manx Club classifieds. But, I had to go get it, it was in Jacksonville, Fl, I'm in upstste NY, so gas and trailer rental...got it home...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it were mine.

I'd take the money you saved on the purchase and bring it back to it's former glory. (engine, logo and all) That car needs to look like the day it was finished and be ready to go another 40 years.

But it's yours, so whatever way you go......have fun with it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It also has this on the side of the car, I understand he is decesed now, I bought it from his estate. Mean anything to anybody?

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