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PostPosted: Yesterday 1:58 pm    Post subject: Rear side marker lights, wiring Reply with quote

The US market vanagons got a rectangular marker light on each side, near the rear. Euro vehicles did not. Mine is an import from Europe, without the markers. I'd like to add them.

Does anyone have a photo showing where the lights get wired to? I found a pic of the little harness for the markers, but cannot find where the wires end is supposed to attach to. Seems like it might connect straight to the tail light??

https://vancafe.com/side-marker-wire-harness-with-bulb-holder/

Any leads are appreciated, and a photo is worth 1000 words!

Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Yesterday 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear side marker lights, wiring Reply with quote

I would not drill holes in the body to add them. I would find some lights to mount to the bumper.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174380049722?itmmeta=01HW...BM7O3HzeFj

and then I'd add something like this inside the van at the top of the rear window.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/335074993057?itmmeta=01HW...R57xvs3hYw
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PostPosted: Yesterday 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear side marker lights, wiring Reply with quote

I agree on not drilling to add side markers. As for wiring, the side marker light is typically always on with the parking lights but the wiring mod below makes it flash with the turn signals:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=623823
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=598035&highlight=side+markers
danfromsyr wrote:
I don't want to kick you or them too much, but I'm not keen to trailer lights added to the side of vans..

what I do on the stock units is replace the whole bulb& holder with a red 3/4in LED Jammie
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they're pretty cheap on fleabay.
they stuff right into the housing using the supplied 3/4in grommet
they're 100% waterproof and will never fail again..

for extra effect I also hook the +12v to the proper tail/running light
but I hook the -Neg to the +Pos of the blinker (turn signal) circuit..
by doing this it'll illuminate normally as a side light
but when your turn signal is on it'll interupt the LEDs -neg path and then the side light will blink as well.
I find this makes the van much more visible.. just be sure to make good weatherproof electrical connections for longevity

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PostPosted: Yesterday 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear side marker lights, wiring Reply with quote

agree with the agrees. If you have a metal bumper you can use these on the end caps. These might be what Jim's quote might be referring to.

https://www.superbrightleds.com/vehicle-lights/led-accent-lighting/led-wired-bolts


https://www.superbrightleds.com/vehicle-lights/tru...+color-Red
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PostPosted: Yesterday 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear side marker lights, wiring Reply with quote

Some Mercedes models used essentially the same side marker lights
If having them be LED appeals to you.
Same mounting hole requirements.
Can replace exisiting VW ones without changing the VW holes.

Aftermarket $20-30 for a pair, shipped.

Mark


tdivan82 wrote:
The US market vanagons got a rectangular marker light on each side, near the rear. Euro vehicles did not. Mine is an import from Europe, without the markers. I'd like to add them.

Does anyone have a photo showing where the lights get wired to? I found a pic of the little harness for the markers, but cannot find where the wires end is supposed to attach to. Seems like it might connect straight to the tail light??

https://vancafe.com/side-marker-wire-harness-with-bulb-holder/

Any leads are appreciated, and a photo is worth 1000 words!

Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Yesterday 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear side marker lights, wiring Reply with quote

I appreciate all the responses, however, where that factory marker bulb pigtail gets wired to is the question at hand.

As for drilling holes, they are already present. This van has some... history. It began life as a US market air cooled, went to europe and became diesel powered, and then later returned to the US, but with all euro electric and lighting.

Long story short, the holes are already present in the body (covered by an adhesive strip). Installing either the factory original markers or some aftermarket LED ones should be plug-n-play.... except that there's nowhere to plug them into.
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PostPosted: Yesterday 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear side marker lights, wiring Reply with quote

Id not hesitate to drill holes to add these lights had there been no holes present. I am clueless why some advise otherwise.
As for wiring, the tail lamp circuit is a very good place to get the power from. that way these marker lamps will illuminate when the tail lamps are on, just as the factory did it.
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PostPosted: Yesterday 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear side marker lights, wiring Reply with quote

tdivan82 wrote:
I appreciate all the responses, however, where that factory marker bulb pigtail gets wired to is the question at hand.



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PostPosted: Yesterday 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear side marker lights, wiring Reply with quote

Wired straight to the tail lights, easy then. Thank you Kamz!
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PostPosted: Yesterday 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear side marker lights, wiring Reply with quote

The wiring and an alternative are mentioned in the danfromsyr post above. Mentioning it so you don't miss the alternative.
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