will type 1 thermostat work on type 4

[bajorek]

I've read you can use a type 1 thermostat in a type 4 engine. How do you modify it? Do you have to modify it?
What does a good thermostat cable look like? Could I use a bicycle brake cable with the ball on the end?

[westy78]

Yep you can use a type1 t-stat on the type4. If you go here to aircooled.net http://tinyurl.com/fagm they explain how to modify it. Its nothing major, just unscrewing a couple of parts. MAKE SURE you get the 80-85 degree model and NOT the 65-70 degree one. You can find the cable at most online sites. Here is one from BusDepot http://tinyurl.com/fah9 . They also still have some type4 t-stats in stock but they are about twice as much as the type1.

[westy78]

Wow Im not having good luck today with links. Try these

http://www.aircooled.net./new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=ESM0002&cartid=0625200356292014

http://busdepot.webappcabaret.net/catalog.jsp?model=57&category=11&group=15

[bajorek]

Ok, most everyone seems to be out of them and they are on back order. Go Westy has them for the type 4 for $51.25 (type 1s are listed $19-24). The guy also said he'd go with the original part over the type 1.

My question is, is there a big difference AND does anyone have one they want to get rid of?

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Don't buy a used t-stat. The cost alone is reason enough to wait until aircooled .net gets restocked, go w/ a type1 t-stat and modify the cable. Barry

[benw82]

that link isn't working on how to modify the type 1 thermostat. here is the link for the modification:
http://www.germansupply.com/xcart/customer/home.ph..._in_t4.tpl
there are 3 pages so you have to keep clicking next to see the complete mod.

anyone now the size of the 2 nuts that hold on the thermostat bracket to the studs on the engine?
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[benw82]

[SGKent]

http://www.germansupply.com/xcart/customer/home.ph..._in_t4.tpl
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bdamico on GF wrote

[benw82]

what kind of rubber seal goes on the tin where the thermostat wire comes through? mine is missing. anyone make a new one out of a hose or ?
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76' Westy

[SGKent]

it is a flat piece of rubber about the size of dime.

You can buy one here. There are posts on it so I am surprised it didn't come up in a search. Did you do one?


http://www.germansupply.com/home/customer/product.php?productid=17676&cat=297&page=2
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bdamico on GF wrote

[rustbus]

You sure can use a standard bicycle brake,/shift cable with the nub on the end, works good, thicker than stock, longer than stock (and I kept it extra long enough so i could hold on to it)

cheap! free for me, I was lucky and a friend was working at the bike shop that day
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[benw82]

well i finally got my thermostat all hooked up. its lower 20's in nashville tonight so i took i for a test run. it seemed to fully open in about 15 minutes of normal city driving. that seemed a little quick to me considering how cold it was. i have the 65-70 degree thermostat because i didn't realize there where different temperature thermostats when i ordered mine from bus depot. can u even buy the 80-85 degree thermostat somewhere?
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[Busdepot]

Here is the current link for the thermostat:
http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=111119159A
This is genuine Volkswagen/Germany. It is discontinued but we still have inventory. Word has it that the tooling was destroyed in a fire, so future availability does not look good.
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[benw82]

[Busdepot]

No, they're all gone. The 111 is all that's left.
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[airkooledchris]

buy a rebuilt one:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1036746
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[nathansnathan]

I got a type 1 thermostat off thesamba classifieds. It was unfortunately the pre-75 65-70 degree one, but better than nothing.

I couldn't figure out if the cylindrical threaded brass piece was designed to come off. I gripped it in the vice but it slipped with the pressure I was comfortable putting on it to hold, and so I figured it wasn't coming off.

I was able to make my own step stud by sawing off the head of a long tin screw and running a die over it, 1 end is now the 6mm x 1.0 thread, the other is a 4mm x .70 going into the thermostat. It's a little long but it clears the part where the block sticks out when it's hot so all good.

Double checking the germansupply how to, I see that the cylindrical part does actually come off. Oh well.

[504]

what's the deal with these:

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC-043-119-159

[busdaddy]