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jpeters Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2005 Posts: 1025 Location: Woodsfield, Ohio
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I think you are correct. The 14" bus rim is 5" wide, but as you can see, it measures over 6" wide from lip to lip. I've also been looking at the offset/backspacing chart from here:
It is getting very confusing to me. From the pics, it looks like backspacing to the bead lip is 4 3/4". SO, on a 5" wheel, that should be about a 47/48 offset. The chart doesn't have 5" rim, but calculating it close gives me that rough idea. Sound about right?
https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html _________________ '73 Westy (dual stock carbs, SVDA w/ compufire)
'68 Westy http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=484180
'65 Westy SO-42 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=435614
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20267 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Yes, actual rim width is measured from inside the beads of the wheel. But I had no way to accurately measure from that spot to the mounting surface. I an get those exact rim widths if it would help. _________________ nothing |
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jpeters Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2005 Posts: 1025 Location: Woodsfield, Ohio
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:35 am Post subject: |
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But I can assume that actual rim width is within a 1/4" of 5" for a 5" wheel, don't you think.
So my bus has stock 14"x5" wheels. I think it is probably safe to assume ET offset is about 47/48 as I mentioned above. I think that is at least in the ballpark.
I'm debating running 5x205 Cosmics which are 15x5.5" ET22.
Using this offset calculator:
http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator#Results
says that I would have 20mm (.787") more clearance on the inside, and would extend out (increase wheelbase) 32mm (1.259") on each side.
SO does a 3" narrowed beam sound about right. _________________ '73 Westy (dual stock carbs, SVDA w/ compufire)
'68 Westy http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=484180
'65 Westy SO-42 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=435614
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20267 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:51 am Post subject: |
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jpeters wrote: |
SO does a 3" narrowed beam sound about right. |
That will depend on how low you want to go, as the wheel well space changes shape the lower you go. _________________ nothing |
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jpeters Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2005 Posts: 1025 Location: Woodsfield, Ohio
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20267 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:39 am Post subject: |
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jpeters wrote: |
Hate to take this thread to far off topic, but I intend to only go 3.5 inches with flipped spindles and maybe another inch or so. Not slammed. |
You should do fine with the 3 inch beam. _________________ nothing |
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tumisoft Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2010 Posts: 69 Location: BELGIUM
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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:36 am Post subject: |
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Anyone know where I can get a new 14"x 5" wheel OG look for my '65 US spec SO42 ?
I find a lot of 15" but no 14"
I live in Belgium and I am looking for a spare.
Here's a picture:
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srfndoc Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 3274 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:37 am Post subject: |
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14" bus rims are very common here in the states. Why not just find a good used one for your spare. Not sure anyone is making them new anymore. _________________ RPM=(MPH*336* (R&P*4th*1.26))/Tire Diameter in inches |
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tumisoft Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2010 Posts: 69 Location: BELGIUM
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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:28 am Post subject: |
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going to 'Techno Classica' fair tomorrow in Germany
I'll take a look there
What's a reasonable price for a 5JKx14" bus wheel ?
I'll paint it L82 silver white later
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srfndoc Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 3274 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:45 am Post subject: |
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I see them all the time in the $15-$20 range here in the states. Be sure you get a bus rim (not a bug or type 3 rim) as the offsets are different. The easiest way to tell the difference is the bus rim valve stem hole will line up with a lug nut hole:
_________________ RPM=(MPH*336* (R&P*4th*1.26))/Tire Diameter in inches |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69802 Location: Phoenix Metro
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LouisR Samba Member
Joined: May 29, 2008 Posts: 70 Location: TEXAS
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:49 am Post subject: |
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Sorry folks but I have been looking through the forums for over an hour and I have run out of time/patience so here goes;
Will a beetle wide 5 15"x5.5wheel work on a 65 bus? Thanks
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20267 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:58 am Post subject: |
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LouisR wrote: |
Sorry folks but I have been looking through the forums for over an hour and I have run out of time/patience so here goes;
Will a beetle wide 5 15"x5.5wheel work on a 65 bus? Thanks
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In a word, yes. They are not as strong a s a bus wheel, and the offset is different, but they will fit. Many people have run them for many years without issue. _________________ nothing |
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LouisR Samba Member
Joined: May 29, 2008 Posts: 70 Location: TEXAS
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Whew!!!Thanks!!
Next question; Since the offset is different with a 3" drop/lowered bus will there be a possible tire rub without using a great radical some crazy tire size smart car like tire? |
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20267 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:16 am Post subject: |
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LouisR wrote: |
Whew!!!Thanks!!
Next question; Since the offset is different with a 3" drop/lowered bus will there be a possible tire rub without using a great radical some crazy tire size smart car like tire? |
That partly depends on the year of your bus, and the tire size.
You will likely rub occasionally when heavily loaded or going around a corner with a large bump. _________________ nothing |
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LouisR Samba Member
Joined: May 29, 2008 Posts: 70 Location: TEXAS
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, I like the look of the chrome stock style but I may go back to the 14" bus stocker wheels. I don't like the thought of tires (cost/danger) rubbing at any time. This will be a full functioning highway driving occasional camping not just for Saturday night cruise bus..
Its a 65 by the way.
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bvolks Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2004 Posts: 845 Location: New Brunswick, Canada
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Any idea what these are from? They came on an old dune buggy we bought years ago.
_________________ 1985 Diesel Jetta Coupe (temporarily retired at
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1995 Golf CL
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zozo Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2005 Posts: 5217 Location: South of Ol' San Antonio
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Porsche?
Too many slots of a dissimilar shape to be any Porsche that I'm familiar with.
Tempo?
One of others of that style from that era? |
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bvolks Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2004 Posts: 845 Location: New Brunswick, Canada
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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I think they're from an Anglia. I was doing some more searching and just found this.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=504519 _________________ 1985 Diesel Jetta Coupe (temporarily retired at
756,000 km)
1971 Doublecab project
1995 Golf CL
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DerekR Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2004 Posts: 384 Location: Riverton, Utah
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:32 pm Post subject: What wheel is this? |
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Today I purchased 2 wheels I thought were 15" bus wheels to complete a set of 5, but when I put them next to my others I realized they were different. They look the same with the 4 large slots and hub cap clips but they are only 4" wide. I have been searching all the forums and thought they might be T3 but these have Hub cap clips. I would like to id them so I can sell them and get 2 others to finish my set and get them to the powder coater.
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60 SO 23 Westfalia SWR/BG Camper
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