Author |
Message |
vwsb74 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 1201 Location: socal
|
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:11 pm Post subject: mallory cdi box options |
|
|
Hi, I want to run a cdi box on my new engine. It seems there is a lot of choices out there, I preferred with the rev limiter. which one is best for the bucks? thanks _________________ 74 super beetle
2011 ford explorer traded
2010 mazda 3 hatchback
2014 Honda odyssey
2180cc 48IDA clone
Xr310 cam =171hp@6k rpm sold so as the car😢 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15303 Location: Deep in the 405
|
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Mallory 6853M is the CDI box with a single stage rev limiter and all you need for a street car. Better hurry because Mallory was bought out by MSD and will probably be discontinued. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/maa-6853m _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
2010 Sportsman ET Champion - Mid-America Dragway - Arkansas City, KS
1997 Sportsman ET Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble ,OK
Featured in Dec. 2001 HOT VW's Magazine page 63
Watch my racing video's http://www.youtube.com/user/okvwracer/videos |
|
Back to top |
|
|
vwsb74 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 1201 Location: socal
|
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
vwracerdave wrote: |
Mallory 6853M is the CDI box with a single stage rev limiter and all you need for a street car. Better hurry because Mallory was bought out by MSD and will probably be discontinued. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/maa-6853m |
Thanks, Dave . I'm ordering now:) _________________ 74 super beetle
2011 ford explorer traded
2010 mazda 3 hatchback
2014 Honda odyssey
2180cc 48IDA clone
Xr310 cam =171hp@6k rpm sold so as the car😢 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
vwsb74 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 1201 Location: socal
|
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
When I'm about to purchase the hyfire Al I found a cheap Mallory cdi, what do you think Dave? http://mallory-ignition.com/ignition-box-roushyates-mallory-racing.html _________________ 74 super beetle
2011 ford explorer traded
2010 mazda 3 hatchback
2014 Honda odyssey
2180cc 48IDA clone
Xr310 cam =171hp@6k rpm sold so as the car😢 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
vwsb74 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 1201 Location: socal
|
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Check this too! http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=181710576453
ps. can I use regular coil or need the compatible coil cdi? _________________ 74 super beetle
2011 ford explorer traded
2010 mazda 3 hatchback
2014 Honda odyssey
2180cc 48IDA clone
Xr310 cam =171hp@6k rpm sold so as the car😢 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20379 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
|
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
Go to Summit Racing or Mallory site, and download installation manual.... Believe it says you can use just about any standard automotive coil....
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
============================================================
All suggestions and advice are purely my own opinion. You are free to ignore them if you wish ... |
|
Back to top |
|
|
mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
|
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:16 am Post subject: |
|
|
Ive got a malory&crane six series both have revlimeters,I got them for my street car&bug, but probably for bug&356 now, I dont have a clue as to when I will ever use them. I didnt know msd bought mallory,mallory was always a real good company to deal with on repairs. I though mallory was part of another conglomerate. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
vwsb74 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 1201 Location: socal
|
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:26 am Post subject: |
|
|
Dale M. wrote: |
Go to Summit Racing or Mallory site, and download installation manual.... Believe it says you can use just about any standard automotive coil....
Dale |
The ct pro manual says it only suitable for ct pro coil! I tried to find the manual on the mallory roushyates racing cdi box but no manual. I'm getting the roushyates because I can get it for $130 shipped. _________________ 74 super beetle
2011 ford explorer traded
2010 mazda 3 hatchback
2014 Honda odyssey
2180cc 48IDA clone
Xr310 cam =171hp@6k rpm sold so as the car😢 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20379 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
|
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:02 am Post subject: |
|
|
Mallory was/is part of ACCEL Performance group....
http://accelnation.com/
Dont know how it was worked out other than ACCEL may have divested it self of Mallory and it was purchased by MSD...
Ok found this... Seems MSD bought the whole enchalata...
http://info.accelnation.com/158-z-capital-partners...group.html
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
============================================================
All suggestions and advice are purely my own opinion. You are free to ignore them if you wish ... |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20379 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
|
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:09 am Post subject: |
|
|
vwsb74 wrote: |
Dale M. wrote: |
Go to Summit Racing or Mallory site, and download installation manual.... Believe it says you can use just about any standard automotive coil....
Dale |
The ct pro manual says it only suitable for ct pro coil! I tried to find the manual on the mallory roushyates racing cdi box but no manual. I'm getting the roushyates because I can get it for $130 shipped. |
Would bet manual for 6864M would be same as 6864RY, and it appears Roush/Yates box is just rebranded 6864M...
http://prestoliteperformance.com/media/instruction..._6864M.pdf
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
============================================================
All suggestions and advice are purely my own opinion. You are free to ignore them if you wish ... |
|
Back to top |
|
|
vwsb74 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 1201 Location: socal
|
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Dale M. wrote: |
vwsb74 wrote: |
Dale M. wrote: |
Go to Summit Racing or Mallory site, and download installation manual.... Believe it says you can use just about any standard automotive coil....
Dale |
The ct pro manual says it only suitable for ct pro coil! I tried to find the manual on the mallory roushyates racing cdi box but no manual. I'm getting the roushyates because I can get it for $130 shipped. |
Would bet manual for 6864M would be same as 6864RY, and it appears Roush/Yates box is just rebranded 6864M...
http://prestoliteperformance.com/media/instruction..._6864M.pdf
Dale |
Yes, I think they are the same too! On the manual it only suitable with ct pro coil. Which is around $80 good thing I bought the box $125 shipped:)
cdi box http://www.ebay.com/itm/181710576453?rmvSB=true
for those guys want to use CDI for $205 with the recommended coil check the link I posted for the cdi box and this one for the recommended coil. limited supply, so grab them while still hot
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mallory-30460RY-Roush-Yate...mp;vxp=mtr _________________ 74 super beetle
2011 ford explorer traded
2010 mazda 3 hatchback
2014 Honda odyssey
2180cc 48IDA clone
Xr310 cam =171hp@6k rpm sold so as the car😢 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
KROC Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2006 Posts: 359 Location: Vancouver B.C.
|
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 9:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Hi just tried a Mallory 6864RY with a Non Mallory spec coil ( Its a CB performance Magnaspark Dizzy and coil) The ignition box or whatever craps out under load, ( It runs perfectly fine without the Cd box hooked up)
Dont really understand why but I guess you do need to use the specified coil..... |
|
Back to top |
|
|
vwsb74 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 1201 Location: socal
|
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 9:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
KROC wrote: |
Hi just tried a Mallory 6864RY with a Non Mallory spec coil ( Its a CB performance Magnaspark Dizzy and coil) The ignition box or whatever craps out under load, ( It runs perfectly fine without the Cd box hooked up)
Dont really understand why but I guess you do need to use the specified coil..... |
That's what in the manual says that even other mallory coil will not deliver the same as the specified coil for this cdi box. _________________ 74 super beetle
2011 ford explorer traded
2010 mazda 3 hatchback
2014 Honda odyssey
2180cc 48IDA clone
Xr310 cam =171hp@6k rpm sold so as the car😢 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
mondshine Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2006 Posts: 2769 Location: The World's Motor Capital
|
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:28 am Post subject: |
|
|
I have used a basic Mallory Hyfire 6a on a couple of different cars for years.
No rev limiter, but I'm not a hot dog.
Both were used with the MSD Blaster SS coil which is a nice compact unit that fits and works well in the original coil location.
They were both perfectly reliable.
The mounting brackets were simple to make.
Good luck, Mondshine |
|
Back to top |
|
|
pupjoint Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 1140
|
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
mondshine wrote: |
I have used a basic Mallory Hyfire 6a on a couple of different cars for years.
No rev limiter, but I'm not a hot dog.
Both were used with the MSD Blaster SS coil which is a nice compact unit that fits and works well in the original coil location.
They were both perfectly reliable.
The mounting brackets were simple to make.
Good luck, Mondshine |
hi, did you have to use the power filter with the CDI set up? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
mondshine Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2006 Posts: 2769 Location: The World's Motor Capital
|
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: mallory cdi box options |
|
|
I chose not to use the Mallory power filter because, if you read their literature carefully, Mallory makes no guarantees of its efficacy.
When I was using a Mallory distributor, (that car was sold years ago) I went with the 6100M, the so-called e-spark module which, according to Mallory, was engineered to lower the cost of manufacture to compete with Pertronix type triggers. It was machine assembled (as opposed to hand assembled like the original 605 module).
Anyway, after switching to the e-spark, I never had another module failure.
I did install an additional ground strap between the engine case and the body per the advice of Century Performance.
My only ACVW now is my '74 Thing.
As you see in the photo, the CD ignition is triggered by points in a Bosch 019.
Very happy with that.
Good luck, Mondshine |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|