Split Standard vs Delux Differences?

[drewhoffman]

Anyone have a good link or list of all the differences between a Standard vs Delux bug in 1952.

Images Are good.

Thx

[sconord]

I was going to post pics, look in my gallery of my 51.


IF it is a Pod Dash split- NON Zwitter then the following applies-

Standards have-
1. Cable Brakes
2. Only center headliner- no liner near side or rear windows
3. Generally- no chrome molding. Canadian stardards had molding
4. Tranny is 1st gear non syncro and all gears are louder- not "silent" as the deluxes are.
5. Dash pod, clock, shift knob, etc are bakelite brown not ivory colored.
6. choice of colors were limited- I think there were only 3 colors available-NOT 100% sure
7. Seats were held in by 2 bolts with wing nuts and not seat tracks.
8. Wheels were painted body color- excpet for the Swedish model which were painted red.
9. Door handles, decklid handle, hood handle were non chrome.
10. Bumpers were body color- unless opted for the chrome upgrade.
11. NO crotch coolers.
12. They could have original 3 fold ragtops, but are rare. Johnshenry has the only one I know of still around.


I think that is it. If it is a Zwitter, then I THINK it is the same as the 53 OVAL interior- except for the ashtray. I am not perfect on my assessment, but this is what I have picked up over the years.

Hope this helps.

[johnshenry]

[Blue Baron]

John is right. Standards have the full crashbox tranny.

[sconord]

You are right.

[toydude111]

No horn grills on standards.
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[drewhoffman]

Could you order a standard w/ a radio, or other options. Any ideas where I can find all the options one could have on there standard?

thx
Drew

[Hebster52]

http://www.clik.to/jupitergrey Some info there.

Former Guzman's standard had a "standard" radio in his.

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[sunroof]

Holy Crap, that's beautiful!

Standard Don

[Brezelwerks]

Also no drivers side perspex sunvisors on standards.

[billmetric]

the standard with the brown radio has deluxe trims around the pods and gloveboxes, shouldnt have any trims, also I think split gloveboxes were bare cardboard without the fabric liners, more like oval gloveboxes, just plain compressed fiber surfaces, and I think no hole for clock winder?

( also note that American spec. Hoffman & export standards had chrome hubcaps, bumpers, window winders ( chrome with black knobs ) & door handles, wiper finish on Hoffman standards is yet to be determined, still a mystery )
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[volksair]

True, there shouldn't be trim around the speedo or radio pods, and no hole for the clock winder.
However, keep in mind many Belgian standards (and perhaps Scandinavian standards) did have trim around the gloveboxes and fabric liners in the gloveboxes.
Refer to gallery pics of my car submitted by myself and sunroof.

[drewhoffman]

The below is for splits only. Feel free to comment and add as this is a work in progress

<< Standard >>
Brakes - Manual
Knobs - Black
Seats - Wing Nut
Trim - None (except Canadian market had trim)
Steering Wheel - 3 Spoke
Door Lever, Hood Handle, Trunk Lever
~ Domestic Market (Germany)- Raw or painted grey
~ Export Market - Raw or painted grey
Window Crank
~ Domestic Market (Germany)- Raw or painted grey with brown knob
~ Export Market - Chrome with brown knob
Fender - No Horn Rings
Horn - Inside Fender
Horn Grills - None
Floor Mates -Black
Inside Door Lever :: Not Plated
Upholstery :: Partial ~ Center section only
Arm Rest :: None
Transmission :: Non Synchro
Dash Pods :: Brown
Bumpers :: Painted Body Color
Crotch Coolers :: None
Sunvisor :: Driver
Pod & Glovebox Trim ::
~ Belgian & Scandinavian Markets :: Yes
~ All other Markets :: None
Glovebox Insert ::
~ Belgian & Scandinavian Markets :: Yes. No hole for clock winder
~ All other Markets :: None. No hole for clock winder

<< Deluxe >>
Brakes - Hydraulic
Knobs - Ivory
Seats - Slide
Trim - Chrome
Steering Wheel - Batwing
Door Lever, Hood Handle, Trunk Lever
~ Domestic Market (Germany)- Chrome
~ Export Market - Chrome
Window Crank
~ Domestic Market (Germany)- Chrome with ivory knob
~ Export Market - Chrome with ivory knob
Fender - Horn Rings
Horn - Outside Fender on bumper
Horn Grills - 1 Per Fender
Floor Mates - Brown
Inside Door Lever :: Chrome
Upholstery :: Full ~ Center, side widows, rear windows
Arm Rest :: Passengers Side
Transmission :: Synchro
Dash Pods :: Ivory
Bumpers :: Chrome
Crotch Coolers :: 1951 - 1952 (any one know the months?)
Sunvisor :: Driver and Passengers
Pod & Glovebox Trim :: Yes
Glovebox Insert :: Fabric. Hole for clock winder on passengers side


<< List Of Factory Upgrades >>
Chrome Bumpers
Door Pin Dome Light Operation
Lockable Steering Column

[johnshenry]

You have the horn locations reversed:

Horn - Inside Fender Is deluxe.

Horn - Outside Fender on bumper is Standard

On the deluxe there was a horn cover bolted over the horn under the fender also.
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[drewhoffman]

Updated

The below is for splits only. Feel free to comment and add as this is a work in progress

<< Standard >>
Brakes - Manual
Knobs - Black
Seats - Wing Nut
Trim - None (except Canadian market had trim)
Steering Wheel - 3 Spoke
Door Lever, Hood Handle, Trunk Lever
~ Domestic Market (Germany)- Raw or painted grey
~ Export Market - Raw or painted grey
Window Crank
~ Domestic Market (Germany)- Raw or painted grey with brown knob
~ Export Market - Chrome with brown knob
Fender - No Horn Rings
Horn - Outside Fender on bumper
Horn Cover :: No
Horn Grills - None
Floor Mates -Black
Inside Door Lever :: Not Plated
Upholstery :: Partial ~ Center section only
Arm Rest :: None
Transmission :: Non Synchro
Dash Pods :: Brown
Bumpers :: Painted Body Color
Crotch Coolers :: None
Sunvisor :: Driver
Pod & Glovebox Trim ::
~ Belgian & Scandinavian Markets :: Yes
~ All other Markets :: None
Glovebox Insert ::
~ Belgian & Scandinavian Markets :: Yes. No hole for clock winder
~ All other Markets :: None. No hole for clock winder

<< Deluxe >>
Brakes - Hydraulic
Knobs - Ivory
Seats - Slide
Trim - Chrome
Steering Wheel - Batwing
Door Lever, Hood Handle, Trunk Lever
~ Domestic Market (Germany)- Chrome
~ Export Market - Chrome
Window Crank
~ Domestic Market (Germany)- Chrome with ivory knob
~ Export Market - Chrome with ivory knob
Fender - Horn Rings
Horn - Inside fender
Horn Cover :: No
Horn Grills - 1 Per Fender
Floor Mates - Brown
Inside Door Lever :: Chrome
Upholstery :: Full ~ Center, side widows, rear windows
Arm Rest :: Passengers Side
Transmission :: Synchro
Dash Pods :: Ivory
Bumpers :: Chrome
Crotch Coolers :: 1951 - 1952 (any one know the months?)
Sunvisor :: Driver and Passengers
Pod & Glovebox Trim :: Yes
Glovebox Insert :: Fabric. Hole for clock winder on passengers side


<< List Of Factory Upgrades >>
Chrome Bumpers
Door Pin Dome Light Operation
Lockable Steering Column
Radio

[dmp]

Here's a few updates I think are needed:
Standards didn't have any sunvisors - deluxe just had one on the drivers side (as stock)
Interior cloth in the glove box on deluxes was stopped sometime in 1950 I believe.
Crotch coolers started mid April 51 and ended at the end September 52.
Early deluxes had 3 spoke ivory steering wheels. Standard steering wheels were always black.
Gearbox (transmission) is non synchro on both.
Windscreen trim was introduced on deluxes some time in 1951 I believe (and rear window trim for zwitter deluxes).
Interior light surround was ivory on deluxes, brown on standards
Standards didn't have clocks, just a blank dash pod.
The dashboard ashtray introduced in mid 1950 was only for deluxes I think (and zwitter standards had a blanking plate and no ashtray).
I think (but not sure) that standards had black painted widscreen wipers and deluxes had chrome.

I'm sure there's more to add but that's all that springs to mind.

[drewhoffman]

Here's a few updates I think are needed:
Standards didn't have any sunvisors - deluxe just had one on the drivers side (as stock)
** HELP! ~ Some one said that standards had only 1 visor, and deluxe had 2. Can anyone confirm this?

Interior cloth in the glove box on deluxes was stopped sometime in 1950 I believe.
** On the list

Crotch coolers started mid April 51 and ended at the end September 52.
** Updated

Early deluxes had 3 spoke ivory steering wheels. Standard steering wheels were always black.
** On the list

Gearbox (transmission) is non synchro on both.
** HELP ! ~ Someone posted the deluxe was synchro. Please confirm.

Windscreen trim was introduced on deluxes some time in 1951 I believe (and rear window trim for zwitter deluxes).
** Please confirm

Interior light surround was ivory on deluxes, brown on standards
** Added

Standards didn't have clocks, just a blank dash pod.
** Added

The dashboard ashtray introduced in mid 1950 was only for deluxes I think (and zwitter standards had a blanking plate and no ashtray).
** Added

I think (but not sure) that standards had black painted widscreen wipers and deluxes had chrome.
** Added

I'm sure there's more to add but that's all that springs to mind.
** Thanks

[drewhoffman]

Updated

The below is for splits only. Feel free to comment and add as this is a work in progress

<< Standard >>
Brakes - Manual
Knobs - Black
Seats - Wing Nut
Trim - None (except Canadian market had trim)
Steering Wheel - 3 Spoke
Door Lever, Hood Handle, Trunk Lever
~ Domestic Market (Germany)- Raw or painted grey
~ Export Market - Raw or painted grey
Window Crank
~ Domestic Market (Germany)- Raw or painted grey with brown knob
~ Export Market - Chrome with brown knob
Fender - No Horn Rings
Horn - Outside Fender on bumper
Horn Cover :: No
Horn Grills - None
Floor Mates -Black
Inside Door Lever :: Not Plated
Upholstery :: Partial ~ Center section only
Arm Rest :: None
Transmission :: Non Synchro
Dash Pods :: Brown
Bumpers :: Painted Body Color
Crotch Coolers :: None
Sunvisor :: Driver
Pod & Glovebox Trim ::
~ Belgian & Scandinavian Markets :: Yes
~ All other Markets :: None
Glovebox Insert ::
~ Belgian & Scandinavian Markets :: Yes. No hole for clock winder
~ All other Markets :: None. No hole for clock winder
Dome Light :: Brown
Right Side Dash Pod :: Nothing
Dash Ashtray :: None
Wiper arm :: Black

<< Deluxe >>
Brakes - Hydraulic
Knobs - Ivory
Seats - Slide
Trim - Chrome
Steering Wheel - Batwing
Door Lever, Hood Handle, Trunk Lever
~ Domestic Market (Germany)- Chrome
~ Export Market - Chrome
Window Crank
~ Domestic Market (Germany)- Chrome with ivory knob
~ Export Market - Chrome with ivory knob
Fender - Horn Rings
Horn - Inside fender
Horn Cover :: No
Horn Grills - 1 Per Fender
Floor Mates - Brown
Inside Door Lever :: Chrome
Upholstery :: Full ~ Center, side widows, rear windows
Arm Rest :: Passengers Side
Transmission :: Synchro
Dash Pods :: Ivory
Bumpers :: Chrome
Crotch Coolers :: April 1951 - Sept 1952
Sunvisor :: Driver and Passengers
Pod & Glovebox Trim :: Yes
Glovebox Insert :: Fabric. Hole for clock winder on passengers side
Dome Light :: Ivory
Right Side Dash Pod :: Clock
Dash Ashtray :: YES ~ 1950 - 1952
Wiper Arm :: Chrome


<< List Of Factory Upgrades >>
Chrome Bumpers
Door Pin Dome Light Operation
Lockable Steering Column
Radio

[drewhoffman]

Here are some questions people asked me and I could not find an answer.

Headlight trim :: was it painted on the standard or chrome
Coat hooks :: Did standards have coat hooks and handles?
Hub caps :: did standards have painted hubcaps? Is so what color?

Thanks