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vlad01 Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2010 Posts: 3069 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 11:23 am Post subject: |
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lol at this thread. So much drama over some clocks.
I remember when I was 13 or 14 and got given a 73 aussie SB and noticing the clock didn't work. I opened it (aussie clock are different) which required popping the bezel off. I remember straight away i said as soon as i saw the insides "aw yeah there is a blown fuse and these gears need a clean"
it was so blatantly obvious after 15 min the clock was working again. There was no such thing as the internet in 2002 where I live. |
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turbomicrowaves Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2007 Posts: 1136
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:44 am Post subject: |
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I soldered it back together and the clock still doesn't work. What did I go wrong? _________________ '68 Sunroof Squareback
"There are no pieces"
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Square One Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2011 Posts: 184 Location: Anchorage, AK
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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More importantly, how do you get the damned thing out of the dash?
Traversing the spaghetti bowl of wires and gear behind my '71 SB's dash is practically impossible.
Any tips? |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34022 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Square One wrote: |
More importantly, how do you get the damned thing out of the dash?
Traversing the spaghetti bowl of wires and gear behind my '71 SB's dash is practically impossible.
Any tips? |
Remove the left side flimsy fresh air hose. It sits right under the clock. Just pull it off the air box and the left-center lower dash vent. No clamps.
Then reach up and pinch the two prongs at 3 and 9 o'clock, and press the clock forward into the dash. This will let you pinch the tabs inward (together), allowing the clock to then be withdrawn towards you. When it gets out, unplug the wires after noting what goes where. Do NOT short the power wire to the dash while you do this!
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Square One Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2011 Posts: 184 Location: Anchorage, AK
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm, I'll give that a try. Thanks, KT! |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34022 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Here is the back of the clock. The prongs are visible; pinch at the serrated ends near the face of the clock, NOT the parts that protrude from the body (at top in this view).
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Square One Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2011 Posts: 184 Location: Anchorage, AK
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Damn, I actually got it to work! And it's keeping perfect time, too!
After soldering back the thermo-fuse, it still wouldn't work.
I sat and stared at it in a lotus position, through a magnifying glass, for some time, and after ascertaining the working order of each gear, the answer (and the meaning of life) were revealed.
I shortened the spring that moves the doohickey that connects to the electric points. It took two tries at shortening/strengthening that spring, but, Holy Cow, it works!
I ran upstairs and woke up my wife (it was 2:30 am by the time I finished), and reported the good news to her.
She wasn't very impressed . . . _________________ I like poetry, long walks on the beach and poking dead things with a stick.
'71 Squareback FI "Irving"
'74 Super Beetle A/S "Mr. Buggy" (named by my 16 yr old daughter when it was hers)
'77 SB Convertible (oops . . . sold!) |
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supaninja Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2010 Posts: 4020 Location: houston
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Square One wrote: |
Damn, I actually got it to work! And it's keeping perfect time, too!
After soldering back the thermo-fuse, it still wouldn't work.
I sat and stared at it in a lotus position, through a magnifying glass, for some time, and after ascertaining the working order of each gear, the answer (and the meaning of life) were revealed.
I shortened the spring that moves the doohickey that connects to the electric points. It took two tries at shortening/strengthening that spring, but, Holy Cow, it works!
I ran upstairs and woke up my wife (it was 2:30 am by the time I finished), and reported the good news to her.
She wasn't very impressed . . . |
What you didn't run outside and proclaim your success at the top of your lungs? _________________ http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/chucky1974/ninja.gif
Nick
Megasquirted Type 4 powered Notch http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=427890&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Blog of Doom http://supaninjanick.wordpress.com/ |
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Woreign Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: Crestview FL
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:56 am Post subject: |
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It's alive! ALIVE!!
Plus, wives are never impressed with all we do in the garage (with the exception of a few...). I honed the inside of my AAR valve so it opens and closes smoothly. I brought it in and showed my wife. After explaining what I did and what it does, I realized that all she heard was "blah-blah blah, blah-blah, blah, and blah". |
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jimmynotch Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2003 Posts: 2901 Location: sacramento
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Woreign wrote: |
Plus, wives are never impressed with all we do in the garage (with the exception of a few...). I honed the inside of my AAR valve so it opens and closes smoothly. I brought it in and showed my wife. After explaining what I did and what it does, I realized that all she heard was "blah-blah blah, blah-blah, blah, and blah". |
I got lucky with this one. She knows how to get dirty and likes wrenching. _________________ Jim in Sacto -
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You guys are dorks. |
1965 1500-S Notchback --"Maggy"
1971 Type 2 Double Cab --"George"
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MonT3 Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2012 Posts: 1988 Location: South Dakota
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Has anyone worked on a Clock from a 67? Reason I ask is that the fuse area looks a little different than the others seen on this thread. For example,
I believe from a late model...(from a post earlier in this thread)
from my square (sorry for the bit of blur)
from a 70s fasty (again, sorry for the blur but I can see the break in the line
The 67 piece doesn't look anything like the later. Should anyone have a pic of what a functional 67 clock looks like, please post. Appreciate it.
regards _________________ MonT3
67 Squareback
64 Squareback
63 Squareback
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sherpa7200 Samba Member
Joined: January 09, 2010 Posts: 43 Location: Stanford, CA
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 8:12 am Post subject: |
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I've got the mechanical-type clock (the one that 'rewinds' every minute or so). The thermo-fuse is fine, but my clock runs intermittently. Meaning that if I put power to it it will initially rewind, but inevitably (usually after a couple of hours) it just stops rewinding. I've tried blowing the gears clean, but haven't yet applied any lubricant. Beyond that, does anyone have any suggestions/hints? _________________ 1978 Westfalia |
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Muulch Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2014 Posts: 34 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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KTPhil wrote: |
Square One wrote: |
More importantly, how do you get the damned thing out of the dash?
Traversing the spaghetti bowl of wires and gear behind my '71 SB's dash is practically impossible.
Any tips? |
Remove the left side flimsy fresh air hose. It sits right under the clock. Just pull it off the air box and the left-center lower dash vent. No clamps.
Then reach up and pinch the two prongs at 3 and 9 o'clock, and press the clock forward into the dash. This will let you pinch the tabs inward (together), allowing the clock to then be withdrawn towards you. When it gets out, unplug the wires after noting what goes where. Do NOT short the power wire to the dash while you do this! |
I'm gonna revive this thread-- I tried removing my clock with this walkthrough and it still isn't budging. Can someone possibly go even more in-depth? A pic or two wouldn't hurt. I really just want to get the clock out of the car so I can fix it without breaking it |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22435 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Muulch wrote: |
KTPhil wrote: |
Square One wrote: |
More importantly, how do you get the damned thing out of the dash?
Traversing the spaghetti bowl of wires and gear behind my '71 SB's dash is practically impossible.
Any tips? |
Remove the left side flimsy fresh air hose. It sits right under the clock. Just pull it off the air box and the left-center lower dash vent. No clamps.
Then reach up and pinch the two prongs at 3 and 9 o'clock, and press the clock forward into the dash. This will let you pinch the tabs inward (together), allowing the clock to then be withdrawn towards you. When it gets out, unplug the wires after noting what goes where. Do NOT short the power wire to the dash while you do this! |
I'm gonna revive this thread-- I tried removing my clock with this walkthrough and it still isn't budging. Can someone possibly go even more in-depth? A pic or two wouldn't hurt. I really just want to get the clock out of the car so I can fix it without breaking it |
You might have to push the front (face) of the clock in a little, before squeezing the side tabs. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
Tram wrote: |
"Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
Tram wrote: |
People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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Esteddom Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2012 Posts: 35 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:06 am Post subject: |
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"Do NOT short the power wire to the dash while you do this!"
Should have read this better before attempting this. I did short the power wire and now I have no clock and no light either. I checked all the fuses and they're fine, other dash lights are working fine too. Any thoughts on what to do here? On a plus side I did get the stock sapphire radio working and the drivers side dome light.
Thanks in advance! |
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Donnie strickland Samba Member
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Esteddom Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2012 Posts: 35 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I reconnected all the wires and nothing unfortunately. Will double check with a voltmeter and report back. |
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Square One Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2011 Posts: 184 Location: Anchorage, AK
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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About a year after I revived my mechanical clock from it's almost 40 year hibernation, it began to run wonky. It would slow up and then speed up then stop and startup again.
I got tired of all this foolishness, admitted to myself that I was not, nor ever would be a watchmaker, and decided to convert it to a battery movement. There are several excellent posts on this forum containing pictures with circles and arrows that will tell you how to do that. Take your time (pun intended), and try not to act too impetuously (always a problem for me).
The result is a perfectly working clock. It has kept perfect time for some two years now. I just readjusted it over to daylight savings time the other day, and it continues to chug along happily.
Best of all, no one knows that it's been converted, except me . . . and the um-teen thousands that read this forum. _________________ I like poetry, long walks on the beach and poking dead things with a stick.
'71 Squareback FI "Irving"
'74 Super Beetle A/S "Mr. Buggy" (named by my 16 yr old daughter when it was hers)
'77 SB Convertible (oops . . . sold!) |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22435 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Square One wrote: |
About a year after I revived my mechanical clock from it's almost 40 year hibernation, it began to run wonky. It would slow up and then speed up then stop and startup again.
I got tired of all this foolishness, admitted to myself that I was not, nor ever would be a watchmaker, and decided to convert it to a battery movement. There are several excellent posts on this forum containing pictures with circles and arrows that will tell you how to do that. Take your time (pun intended), and try not to act too impetuously (always a problem for me).
The result is a perfectly working clock. It has kept perfect time for some two years now. I just readjusted it over to daylight savings time the other day, and it continues to chug along happily.
Best of all, no one knows that it's been converted, except me . . . and the um-teen thousands that read this forum. |
If you go back a page, you'll see I did that conversion back in 2008. Still have the same clock in the car, and it still keeps great accurate time. I do however need to "re-set" it back to eastern time, as it's an hour ahead right now. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
Tram wrote: |
"Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
Tram wrote: |
People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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shakadon Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2013 Posts: 24 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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So this type 3 was leaking a lot of water so I decided to pull the dash, the guages, everything to do it right. I pulled of the back of the clock cover and rust was everwywhere. I cleaned it all up, got it running manually, soldered the "fuse" but no luck.
Looking closer at the pictures, it looks like there are supposed to be points that touch with the winder. Mine does not have them, it just looks like a pointer coming off the body of the clock. Also how does that solinoid work? I dont see anyway for it to wind back the winder? When I apply power and ground to the solidoid it just vibrates, I dont see any way for it to push out?
Am I missing something? |
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