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Kirk Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2003 Posts: 5487 Location: North Texas
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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I had never seen this. Very nice write up. _________________ MAKE FORUMS GREAT AGAIN
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pusherman Banned
Joined: July 28, 2008 Posts: 80 Location: Norwalk!
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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awesome. i got my steering wheel off using this technique. then i took everything else off in order to get to the ignition switch. Now that my ignition switch is fixed i dont know how to put it all back together. i have a very good idea but im confused as to what order some things go.
Is there some sort of diagram that shows the order of things? |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51153 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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vdubzen Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2006 Posts: 227 Location: ABQ, NM 87110
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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this is great, just what i was looking for. thanks for the write up and pics. _________________ 60 karmann ghia
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2002 Posts: 22 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:42 pm Post subject: Changing steering wheel: Why the large washers?? |
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"Cut a slot in two large washers 3 1/2" OD by 1 5/8 ID. Place washers under the wheel so that the slots do not line up. The top washer should contact the heads of the screws which hold the turn signal cancellation tab which is mounted to the underside of the wheel. One washer would probably do the trick if you align the slot properly and make sure you press against the cancellation screws:"
Please explain the importance of the large washers. They're only necessary if you use a puller, right? ... If I'm changing the wheel for a new one, can I get the wheel off without the puller? ... Thanks.
Steve _________________ 72 Karmann Ghia
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RatCamper Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2008 Posts: 3305 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:57 am Post subject: |
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Glad I have a late bus! That's a whole lot of work.
Mine consisted of:
Pry off horn button with fingernails.
Undo nut with fingers
Lift wheel off with 0 effort
Yeah. Wrong I know. _________________ Vehicle: 1975 Special order delivery walkthrough panel based pop-top camper (LCA / Sunliner). Motor: Nippon 1.8L Single port Wasserboxer, Transmission: 3 rib 002. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51153 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:14 am Post subject: Re: Changing steering wheel: Why the large washers?? |
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[email protected] wrote: |
can I get the wheel off without the puller? ... Thanks.
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Stranger things have happened, maybe if you have arms like Popeye, most early wheels are one with the column and need the puller. The washers prevent screwing up the steering wheel which you'll likely want to hang onto to put back when you discover the new custom one sucks. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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rustbus Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2009 Posts: 2078 Location: alberta
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:33 am Post subject: |
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I'd be a little worried about my face/teeth pulling it off with just my arms... ahahah, i can picture it now THOK!!! #$%^#$% steering wheel#@$^@# thesamba #@$%@ dentists _________________ May of '72 Deluxe. 2.0L L-Jet CS & 091 trans conversion
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2002 Posts: 22 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:05 am Post subject: New "Original" steering wheel |
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I got a pretty good deal (sale) on a replica Just Kampers wheel bought through CIP1. I know it's the same wheel many vendors carry. No, I wouldn't change to another aftermarket style wheel. ... Just over a year ago a local shop had the current wheel off to repair electrical elements, including the turn signals and horn, so I know the wheel isn't "frozen" on from the factory. ... I've removed steering wheels on my Ghia and SB, and always leave the large nut (loose) on to prevent any violence. ... Thanks _________________ 72 Karmann Ghia
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mygreenbus Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2007 Posts: 1154 Location: Palm Coast, FL
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:14 am Post subject: |
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The wheel on our '71 came off with just a wiggle. The '72 I used the washer method, once. After that because I lubed it before I put the wheel back on, it has been and easy removal. _________________ '72 Bus |
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Professor Dred Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2007 Posts: 258 Location: St. Petersburg, Florida
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:44 am Post subject: |
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I'm going to attempt pulling my steering wheel to get to the ignition cylinder.
Does anybody know a good source for the 3 1/2" OD by 1 5/8 ID washers?
Went to ace hardware and they only have up to 2" OD.
Going to try home depot later but I think these are going to be harder to find than that.
Also, Anchovy made a comment in the first post about the steering wheel lock. Are all '71s supposed to have the lock? I don't believe mine locks. _________________ '71 Westfalia Weekender - 'Rita'
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16971 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Professor Dred wrote: |
I'm going to attempt pulling my steering wheel to get to the ignition cylinder.
Does anybody know a good source for the 3 1/2" OD by 1 5/8 ID washers?
Went to ace hardware and they only have up to 2" OD.
Going to try home depot later but I think these are going to be harder to find than that.
Also, Anchovy made a comment in the first post about the steering wheel lock. Are all '71s supposed to have the lock? I don't believe mine locks. |
whoa big boy. You don't need to pull the wheel for that. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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Professor Dred Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2007 Posts: 258 Location: St. Petersburg, Florida
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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aeromech wrote: |
Professor Dred wrote: |
I'm going to attempt pulling my steering wheel to get to the ignition cylinder.
Does anybody know a good source for the 3 1/2" OD by 1 5/8 ID washers?
Went to ace hardware and they only have up to 2" OD.
Going to try home depot later but I think these are going to be harder to find than that.
Also, Anchovy made a comment in the first post about the steering wheel lock. Are all '71s supposed to have the lock? I don't believe mine locks. |
whoa big boy. You don't need to pull the wheel for that. |
Hmm ok. Thanks for the abundance of info you provided aeromech. I'm basing this off of Ratwell's link to this page here
Can you give me an idea of how to remove the cylinder with the steering wheel on? Please keep in mind this is for a '71. Maybe I overlooked something but all signs point to removing the steering column, which includes removing the steering wheel.
Edit: Maybe I should have reworded that, I want to remove the tumbler as well. Not just the cylinder. Mine is sticking when I put the electrical switch in and I cannot remove the key unless I fiddle with it. Thought I could remove the tumbler, then the cylinder and clean it all up. _________________ '71 Westfalia Weekender - 'Rita'
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16971 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Send me a PM and I'll explain everything _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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TomWesty Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2007 Posts: 3482 Location: Wyoming,USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Dred, I have a '71 and have replaced the keylock and the switch both without steering wheel removal. Not easy, but doable. _________________ If you haven't bled on them, you haven't worked on them.
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Professor Dred Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2007 Posts: 258 Location: St. Petersburg, Florida
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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So okay, I was mistaken. I removed the whole steering column and turned it upside down. Then I did the coat hanger trick to reach around the back and push in the spring and removed the key-lock. and then removed the set-screws and pulled the cylinder out.
I just thought, after all the reading I did, that the whole assembly had to be off the steering column... nope.
Well, I figured out why I don't have a locking steering wheel, and it's apparent that I should. The outer steering column tube was turned so the lock mechanism was always in the unlock position. Why? Well, because the fork that drives the lock is broken. Not to mention its pretty torn up all over on the inside of the cylinder. So checking around for a new cylinder but I think the key-lock is still good.
Thanks guys. _________________ '71 Westfalia Weekender - 'Rita'
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peaceful warrior Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2005 Posts: 5274 Location: Taoswest, USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Great write up! It reminded me that I had a steering wheel puller in my tool box.....Got it out and it took a few seconds to pop the steering wheel off.
I forgot about the tool, as I bought it at a garage sale years ago. _________________ "Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein
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BumbleBus Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2009 Posts: 483 Location: Montana
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Professor Dred wrote: |
Does anybody know a good source for the 3 1/2" OD by 1 5/8 ID washers? |
Sheesh. Me too... can't find this size anywhere around here. Biggest I found was 3" OD 1 1/4" ID... so close... and yet so far. Small town living sometimes has it's disadvantages. No one has a 3 arm gear puller either so had to order from the interwebs. |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16971 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 11:20 am Post subject: |
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I just pulled the wheel off a 1971 bus a few days ago. I have a puller specially made for the job and sold here in the classifieds:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=478847
Even using this puller the wheel didn't comes off easily. I've found several that come off with a loud "bang". My point is that removing your wheel can easiely damage it. Be careful and try to use the right tool. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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Boeing 727,737-200-300-400,757,767
Airbus A319,320,321
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BAe146
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BumbleBus Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2009 Posts: 483 Location: Montana
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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aeromech wrote: |
My point is that removing your wheel can easiely damage it. Be careful and try to use the right tool. |
Yes thanks aeromech, point taken, which is why I ordered the arm puller after gingerly trying hand rocking/rubbet malleting etc etc. She ain't budging. Shoulda scrounged classifieds here first. Will remember that next time. My steering wheel is already really cracked up, which is why I'm removing it. Going to try to JB it all back together and re-paint it. We'll see. |
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