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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Driver's Side Rear Vent Window Reply with quote

I am preparing to star working on my Driver's side Rear window, and need to verify everything I need before starting.

The present vent window will open but appears to be so rusted out on the bottom that it could push out.

1. Does this mean that I need a new(used) metal frame?
If i'm understanding the pictures I have seen, there is the main window seal, then also a seal for the vent window itself.
2. Is this the only parts I need to repair the entire window?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bus vent window is chrome. The Westy vent window is black. I have not seen any good used black windows.

Yes, you will need to remove the big window first, then the vent window. Pull it to the rear about an inch and then it tilts out from the bottom.

Or you can put in one window from the pass side and forget about the vent window.

The bottom pivot rusts and then shears off..... then the window flops when open.

I had another person ask me for a vent window. Sent him pics and a price. Never heard back......

Here are pics of it, ready to use as is with a very nice seal:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiya bare,

I have mine out right now also.

The rear vent window (hmmmm....all the rear vent windows) have a frame that lives inside a rubber seal. Be careful when you go to remove that frame and seal assembly. The frame has two metal tags that should be bent over the pinch weld in the window opening. Look for those two tags on the front side of the window. You'll have to peel back some of the rubber seal on the inside of the bus to locate them.

Only after you get the entire assembly out will you be able to get a good look at the frame. Many are not in very good shape due to rust and corrosion. This is especially true of the area around the bottom post.

Basically if you have a new seal (and your frame is OK - be sure to clean it thoroughly and repaint it) you're set to go for reinstallation. I'm sitting on mine right now because my assistant (my wife) has a bum wrist right now. The vent window seal is a beast all unto itself and has nothing to do with the regular window seal.

The vent window can be taken out and reinstalled without having to remove the main window. Matter of fact that's just what I'm doing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karl you have cleaner hands than I expected! If I even look at my bus my hands get dirty Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the responses and the photos, Karl.

So, if I'm understanding correctly, if the bottom part is rusted, there are no parts that can really be replaced on it? So, if part of the frame is rusted out, I just need a whole new frame ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see what you mean Karl about black framed Vent Windows. The classifieds are full of chrome ones, but no black ones. I wonder if the chrome could be sandblasted off?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone should snap up that window Karl has. Good ones are very hard to come by. During my restoration, I made one good one from 2 or 3 so-so ones. Took the bottom pivot and welded it onto a good window. New seals and painted the chrome window frame after scuffing it up. Still not the same, but it looks good.

Also blasted the outer frame and POR15'd it.. came out real nice.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRN9 wrote:
Karl you have cleaner hands than I expected! If I even look at my bus my hands get dirty Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These just popped up in the classifieds:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=644200

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I just emailed Shane about them. But they are chrome, I just searched the classifieds and emailed a bunch of folks looking for black ones, so we'll see what turns up. Thanks for keeping your eye out for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trying to change out my vent wing fastener on drivers side...I assume the window has to come out...any 1,2, 3 directions for this one?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

barefootwestie wrote:
Thanks. I just emailed Shane about them. But they are chrome, I just searched the classifieds and emailed a bunch of folks looking for black ones, so we'll see what turns up. Thanks for keeping your eye out for me.


I think I have a couple of black ones, I will check this afternoon and PM you!
My Westy had a solid window on that side and I think I will keep it in. Stripped 2 Westys, so one should be good. Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quigleyp wrote:
trying to change out my vent wing fastener on drivers side...I assume the window has to come out...any 1,2, 3 directions for this one?


If it's just the latch then the window can stay in, but you will need a super tiny drift to punch out the split pin that retains the arm to the window frame.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peaceful warrior wrote:
barefootwestie wrote:
Thanks. I just emailed Shane about them. But they are chrome, I just searched the classifieds and emailed a bunch of folks looking for black ones, so we'll see what turns up. Thanks for keeping your eye out for me.


I think I have a couple of black ones, I will check this afternoon and PM you!
My Westy had a solid window on that side and I think I will keep it in. Stripped 2 Westys, so one should be good. Wink

Check my ad. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=794840


The post you're replying to is almost a year old......
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OOPS! Embarassed I'm still writing 2008 on my checks... Laughing Laughing
thanks for the heads up! Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gosh..a whole year. And ask me if it is installed yet...no. But I do have the parts, just haven't gotten around to it yet.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just put in a nice chrome one, who cares if its black or if you do paint in black.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karl sold us a really nice vent window and I can tell you that we were very pleased with it. His items are as close to NOS as you will get.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a great black one in the classifieds a year ago... keep looking..

Someday I'll get around to replacing my chrome one on my '71 Westy...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:27 am    Post subject: 73 bus rear vent window frame ???? Reply with quote

Having trouble locating a new or used rear wing window vent outer frame. Mine fell apart in my hands when I removed it.

appreciate any help locating one
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