New Long Travel A-Arm Conversion For Sandrails...

[tonka329]

I clicked on the link and it says it's no longer available... Did you perhaps know how much he was asking for the kit?

[baja5]

The complete kits were around $3200.00. Depending on shocks and stuff.
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[tonka329]

Thanks Baja5... $3,200! That is a decent price... I would supply my own shocks. Where is Pete located at?

[seabeebuggy]

I guess that makes the kits a collectors item now. I will sell mine for 4500. Well not really . That is a great kit. He may make them again . Who knows with the Countries direction. And Ca is in a S**t storm.
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[tonka329]

I don't think I will spend $4500... Nice try tho! If he is located in California don't think I could afford shipping!! I'm in Illinois. About 65 miles South of Chicago... Thanks for the help. I'll try the conversion myself. I'm just scared to mess up my rail...

[baja5]

You could check out orange county buggy, they sell a kit that is similar. Not sure how much though.
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[tonka329]

Orange County Buggy?

[tanner_122]

i dont see the point IMO of spending $3500 + on an A arm front end for a VW if u want an a arm front end why not buy a rail that already has one?
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[tonka329]

My wife has emotional attachments to this buggy...

[greg mgm]

For me the point was to get a very reliable soft riding suspension. You really have to experience it to get it. You don't feel many of the bumps, and riding all day off road doesn't beat you up. Getting airborn and landing nice and soft is incredible. I paid more than $3500 per end on my baja and now have A arms front and rear. By far it was the best $$ I've even spent !

BTW, I've riden in Pete's A arm buggy and it rides awesome. His suspension kits were very fairly priced considering how much work he put into them. Seabeebuggys manx has Pete's A arms also....rides great!

[Lawrence_0485]

[hillmonster]

I am very interested in your bolt on kit. Please email me with you contact info.

Thank you Dan Edwards

[takotruckin]

Unfortunately Pete (ellobo) is no longer selling these kits. Its a shame, he did damn fine work.
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[Rockwood]

You could always buy this setup:

http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index.php?showtopic=214514

Not bad for the parts there...
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[Thadude90]

Has any one ever uses the orange county a arm kit that bolts on, any pics of it. does any one else make a kit like that. i realy want one, i really liked the one ellobo was making.

[surewriting]

Stockornaut Restorations in GA is developing a front A-arm kit for use on bajas and rails, and already has a rear A-arm system pretty much sorted out. Were going to be building a testbed baja to iron out all the kinks extremely soon

http://www.stockornaut.com/

[veeweeman]

I think the reason he stopped making the kit was his rear strut rod support is flawed...if you land just hard enough that support is going move backwards which will throw your steering alignment off big time and could cause your buggy to crash...the other design flaw in the rear support is that there are so many different rails on the market as well as home built kits...his strut rod support seems to be designed for a frame that is built with parallel side bars...I am almost certain this is why he stopped making this front A-arm suspension, just too many different frame designs would require a lot of strut rod redesign.

[shred625]

Just my opinion but that entire bolt on a-arm thing is a really bad idea. There is no way that is strong enough to be safe.

If you want an a-arm car then you have 2 options in my opinion. Cut the front of your car off and make it an a-arm or buy an a-arm chassis. Everything else is junk to me.

To be honest you can get a really nice beam for $3500.
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[Mr. Unpopular]

I totally agree Shred. That is so much money for something that just doesn't look that strong. And 15" of travel from a beam (way less than $3500) rides the same as 15" of travel from A-arms, and the trailing arm design is inherently stronger than an A-arm setup.
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[ducktape]

I bought the last one, the "floor model" pictured on the site. The rear support is the Achilles heel. I opted to weld my supports on, which helped quite a bit but the placement is critical. Too far forward or back causes extreme bumpsteer. I only realized this after welding.

I ended up modeling the suspension on my computer, tweaking the mounting points here and there until I had eliminated bumpsteer. A slight change to the spindles solved my problem. It worked out for me, but it probably wouldn't have been a success for your average Joe. I suspect that's part of why it's discontinued; it's just too hard to make a one-size-fits-all solution for every rail that's out there.

It's a shame, really. I love this setup so much! Pete is an exceptional engineer. Everyone who has seen it really liked it, and it's survived some extreme torture... Example: I managed to accidentally t-bone my Jeep with it at 30mph, and believe it or not my Jeep was the loser. It's much smoother than comparable beams, and is more predictable. I'd invite the doubters to come see for themselves, but I don't think they could keep up!
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